View Full Version : Let's change the name of RunAlyzer !!!
Hi there,
I would like to appeal to the whole society of RunAlyzer initial authors, developers and end users:
Let's arrange a show of hands !!
The name of the program is annoying as extremely incorrect. I understand that it was most probably a funny joke at the beginning, when the project developers were young and RunAlyzer was an infant.
But now it is more and more the professional program; so why still joking at him ? Sorry, but - in my opinion - the name "RunAlyzer " is presently simply rubbish and not very funny.
Moreover, my internet spell-checker is protesting and crying very much - every time when I am trying to write this ugly name - RunAlyzer; and I am not going to teach "him" such improper entries.
Let's assign to the program a simple, nice and (what's the most important) professional name:
"AutoRun Expert", "AutoRun Analyst" . or
"SpyBot-AutoRun-Expert" .
Listen guys, we are not children already (and unfortunately) :) .
Hello.
I would like to appeal to the whole society of RunAlyzer initial authors, developers and end users:
The developer is PepiMK.
Sorry, but - in my opinion - the name "RunAlyzer " is presently simply rubbish and not very funny.
Interesting way to make a request. ;)
Hi,
I have not stated that the program is rubbish - the program is GREAT !!; even in beta version.
Exclusively, what I wanted to say is that I do not like the program name "RunAlyzer". Well, RunAnalyzer would also be wrong (Brr ...).
So, please vote for change :funny:
Best Regards
The name RunAlyzer was never intended to be "very funny", so it doesn't have to be actually.
Let's see, what have I got installed? Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, EverNote, GIMP, SketchUp, IrfanView, Picasa, SeaMonkey, 7zip, Bochs, VMWare, TrueCrypt, TortoiseSVN, Skype, GnuPG ... wait, my spell checking is complaining about nearly every of these names, damn! I'm going to uninstall them right away!
But that's the point - you've got to use an individual, non-standard name to get a trademark! If you just combine a few dictionary words, the recognition value is reduced a lot.
"Autorun expert" or "Autorun analyst" are much farther away from being professional in that they have a muss lesser "marketing value", practically inviting (!) copycats, and creating confusion with users as to which software they have exactly.
For example, there was one SpyRemover and there are two SpywareRemover products. Well, that's just dictionary words - that's so professional that every standard user doesn't even know which of these he has, and the legit one could never enforce his trademark.
Hi,
I would like to answer to PepiMK and I would like to extend my answer to tashi post, as well.
PepiMK has written:
The name RunAlyzer was never intended to be "very funny", so it doesn't have to be actually.
Sorry for misunderstanding, I have thought that you chosen "RunAlyzer" name accidentally simply making a typo at the beginning of the project. And then, you decided that it is a good joke - so let it be uncorrected.
"Autorun expert" or "Autorun analyst" are much farther away from being professional in that they have a muss lesser "marketing value", practically inviting (!) copycats, and creating confusion with users as to which software they have exactly.
For example, there was one SpyRemover and there are two SpywareRemover products. Well, that's just dictionary words - that's so professional that every standard user doesn't even know which of these he has, and the legit one could never enforce his trademark.
I accept and support the above reasoning but I have also proposed the name:
Spybot-AutoRun-Expert
or - if it is too long name - it could be
SB-AutoRun-Expert
written exactly as given above; i.e. using capital letter "R" for "run" and writing "AutoRun" and not "Autorun".
Thus, the problem you are writing above would be solved and the name of the program would reflect - to some extent - what this program is doing. In case of the name "RunAlyzer" the functionality of this soft is not described at all.
In my opinion, the name of program (or any research project) should reflect - to maximal possible extent - the subject of research and the functionality of the final product. On the other hand - it should not be too long. It seems that my proposal as shown above - satisfies these both assumptions. What do you think about ?
Tashi has written:
Originally Posted by ajakibs:
"Sorry, but - in my opinion - the name "RunAlyzer " is presently simply rubbish and not very funny."
Interesting way to make a request.
Dear Collegues,
After a few hours I have come to conclusion that - due to the fact that English is not my native language - I improperly used the word "rubbish" in my first Post. Thus, if some of you - developers of RunAlyzer program - have felt insulted, please, accept my sincere apologies.
I beg your pardon - I have not realized that my usage of this word "rubbish" in the shown above context could be - in some way - offensive. It seems that I simply still do not feel some English language subtleties and, thus, I used this word without a proper consideration. In other words, I did it unintentionally and it has brought a warm flush to my face :sad: .
So, sincerely hoping that we are still friends,
My best wishes from Poland and regards to all of you !!
... In case of the name "RunAlyzer" the functionality of this soft is not described at all...
So a combination of the English words 'run' and 'analyzer' do not describe the functionality of a system startup analyzing application?
BTW: Have you looked at the names of most of Safer Networking's applications? I think the name 'RunAlyzer' will be quite noticeable as a Safer Networking product, as it fits in quite nicely with the rest of their product line. ;)
Nie ma za co :) (I'm not a native speaker myself)
Yes, the name actually started out of a typo, but well, a typo at least means the names are "nearer" to real words than total fantasy words.
Also, keep in mind that people tend to shortcut... "Spybot - Search & Destroy" is usually called just "Spybot", for example. A name like "spybot autorun expert" is very long - three words to speak out. "RunAlyzer" is something you can speak out as one word. Well, you speak a language that's very fast anyway, so you might not notice the difference that much :laugh:
Also, as GT500 said, it's kind of a recognizable thing now, since many tools care that SomethingAlyzer "brand".
though I think we're not the only ones using that combination; Javacool has created something call EULAlyzer, and there are multiple Logalyzers out there as well.
Lets see what other people will say :)
Hello PepiMK :)
Are you so smart that -apart of you computer science knowledge - you speak also in the Polish language ? How come ?
You have written in Polish "nie ma za co" what means "not at all" (I've translated it for other colleagues). It was a very pleasant and funny surprise for me. :)
By the way - I have a rather indiscreet question to you. Do you realize that your PM box is full already and it is not possible to send to you any private message ? Or you have been "killed" by too curies and pressing RunAlyzer users; thus you decided to close this connection tool.
You have written:
A name like "spybot autorun expert" is very long - three words to speak out.
O.K. - but I also proposed the version: SB-AutoRun-Expert
What do you think about it ?
I would also like to give some comment to GT500 post: namely, he has written:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajakibs
... In case of the name "RunAlyzer" the functionality of this soft is not described at all...
So a combination of the English words 'run' and 'analyzer' do not describe the functionality of a system startup analyzing application?
1. First of all the "analyzer" sounds very strange for me. Well, I am not English or American - and moreover I am not the English language expert (as you can notice from my Posts :)) - but the word "analyst" should be used in the shown above case. Am I right ?
2.The name "RunAlyzer" do not describe the functionality of the program as it should be "AutoRunAlyzer" in order to cover what it is doing; or writing this in another manner - it could be "AutorunAlyzer". Right ? Of course, assuming that we agree that the term "Alyzer" is O.K.
Well, as we are living in democratic countries (as I do believe) - Let's vote :funny:
2.The name "RunAlyzer" do not describe the functionality of the program as it should be "AutoRunAlyzer" in order to cover what it is doing; or writing this in another manner - it could be "AutorunAlyzer". Right ? Of course, assuming that we agree that the term "Alyzer" is O.K.
I agree that the name 'AutoRunAlyzer' is more descriptive, but I think that it's too late in the beta process to change the name now. Many people recognise the name 'RunAlyzer', and changing that could cause too much confusion.
Now obviously those of us with blogs will comment on the name change, but not everyone reads blogs, and not everyone with a blog will know about the name change. So the end result would be a lot of people looking for updates to 'RunAlyzer', and not realizing that the name had changed.
Then you get into that grey area where rogue anti-spyware applications will often have names similar to legitimate anti-spyware tools. People will see the new name on download sites, and might assume that it is another utility posing as RunAlyzer.
Overall I believe that the confusion aspect would be too great to change the name at this point. ;)
Hi,
Thank you very much for your prompt reply. :)
GT500 has written:
Overall I believe that the confusion aspect would be too great to change the name at this point.
Well, I - to a very extent - agree with this reasoning. It is in fact an important reason for leaving the RunAlyzer name unchanged :sad:.
But - on the other hand, some two years ago, Microsoft has changed the name of its MS Anti-Spyware program (I do not well remember how it was exactly called) - into Windows Defender and all was O.K. The end users rapidly accepted the new name of this.
Thus, let's wait for other people opinion on this subject.
No, I'm afraid I do not really speak Polish; I know just a few hundred words, a few simple sentences and terms like that one ;) (and native Polish speaker speak sooo fast :laugh: )
And yes, I know about my inbox... the problem is that new PMs just get in faster than I could answer them :sick:
"Windows Defender" previously was Microsoft AntiSpyware, and before that imho Giant AntiSpyware. As you can see, "Defender" is even an improvement in terms of recognizability compared to an unimaginative "AntiSpyware". Microsofts amount of press influence is a bit different from ours though :D:
md usa spybot fan
2007-09-19, 01:27
Sorry, but - in my opinion - the name "RunAlyzer " is presently simply rubbish and not very funny.
If AltaVista Babel Fish Translation is working properly, I think that to satisfy ajakibs ( http://forums.spybot.info/member.php?u=27262) complaint that "RunAlyzer" is not descriptive enough, I vote that the program should be named to "Abfall".
Now that would have to satisfy ajakibs ( http://forums.spybot.info/member.php?u=27262) request, because it would be "... simply rubbish ..." but at least it would be somewhat "... funny ...".
ps: My recommendation is no reflect on the usefulness or the quality of the program. It is just my sick opinion for a "…show of hands" and to satisfying ajakibs (http://forums.spybot.info/member.php?u=27262) request for a name change, because without a name change this thread is likely to go on and on perpetually.
Hi, there and "Dzien dobry" PepiMK :)
Thanks for your answers.
Well, following our discussion I am coming to conclusion that it is too late to change the name of RunAlyzer. It is a pity that we did not initiated this "linguistic" thread at the beginning of your project.
But never mind - the life is still going ahead ... :)
OT: A message to PepiMK: Could you please having a look at the sequence of my rather elementary questions to you given some time ago at the thread "RunAlyzer analysis results" => On line analysis - further questions" within the Forum Section: RunAlyzer Beta.
Well, in the meantime, I answered to a part of these questions by myself - but if you could completed the answers - I would know (almost) everything about the basic idea of your RunAlyzer program.
By the way: In my opinion, the thread mentioned (i.e. "RunAlyzer analysis result") is a very important for comprehensive understanding how RunAlyzer is functioning. I would strongly recommend it to other participants of our Forum; especially, to those - being newbies in the area (as I am).
P.S. Refers to: md usa Spybot fan post. Please, do forget about my way of using the word "rubbish" in the English language. I have already expressed my sincere apologies related.
P_Tatyana
2008-04-23, 17:31
Hi!!!
It's really very intresting,thanks for it.
I agree with GT500. I think many people recognise the name 'RunAlyzer', and changing that could cause too much confusion.