Okay, I got virused. I keep my task manager up at all times, so when my processor spike at 100% I knew right away. finding a process called hldrrr.exe, I killed it, only to have it come up again when I tried to launch IE, each and every time. Finding it in my windows/drivers directory, I deleted it, and it hasn't returned. I also found another file with the same iconography as it did (a round red cross over white) I deleted that as well, but have since forgotten the file name. I thought to run a av scan, and that's when I noticed that I didn't have tray icons for EITHER Norton AV, or AVG. I was able to launch the AVG test-center and start a scan, but my system then crashed and relaunched, and from that point on ANY av software I try to runs tells me that it's not a valid win32 app. This includes spybot s&d, avg, norton, windows defender, you name it. IE will NOT connect to any webpage, even if I run network diagnostics and it reports no problems, and I want to view the details, it takes several minutes for IE to open THAT page, and it's not even over the internet. I DO still have internet access, as you can see, but only by using firefox. I did see a thread about trying to remove hldrrr.exe, and downloaded icesword to try it. Since the reboot, I don't get an error about invalid win32 apps for it, but it won't run, either. What happens is the explorer window I open to get to icesword just locks up, as soon as I try and launch the app. with that locked up, I can't do much of anything, until I reboot. I truly hope someone can help me, this is the only system I have left since my laptop gave up on me.