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    Default false positive: error nuker

    trek blue error nuker is a false positive

    I bought it to clean my registry, which it does perfectly


    http://www.errornuker.com/

    go there to make sure
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    Hi Sneaky13,

    This is why Trek Blue Error Nuker is targeted by Spybot:

    A pop-up caused by CoolWWWSearch.Aff.Winshow urges the user to download ErrorNuker in order to clean unwanted registry entries from the system. Having had to accept an unsatisfying privacy policy and having installed the program the PC is being scanned and 2 or 3 pseudo threats are reported. If the user tries to fix those a dialog pops up telling him that the threats cannot be fixed using the test version and that he will have to buy the full version for about 40 EUR.


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    on top of that when you erase error nuker ( evaluation version) they ask you why

    I answered it's far too expensive

    so they sold it to me something like 3 times cheeper
    Last edited by sneaky13; 2005-11-29 at 16:38.
    they didn't know it was impossible so they achieved it

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    Hi

    I have also just installed Trek Blue's Error Nuker - a registry analyzer/fixer. I was a little suprised and concerned when I saw that S&D identified it as a threat. From the answer submitted above - I do not understand how this is a threat. What is malicious about Trek Blue's Error Nuker? I installed it because it was very highly recommended out of a list of about 10 registry cleaners.

    I understand that there was a dispute about S&D's spyware/bot database being used without consent by Trek Blue - but was this ever cleared up?

    So - is Error Nuker itself a threat? If so, what is the threat? I have paid for the full version - if it is genuinely bad then I will ask for a refund.

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    Hello.

    I thought Buster explained why Trek Blue Error Nuker is targeted by Spybot quite well in his post above.

    However we do encourage members to make up their own mind as to the software they install.

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    Right - so Spybot not only targets genuine spyware/adware, it also targets programs that support spyware/adware. Amazing. That is quite an ethical stance.

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    ...................

    Quote Originally Posted by Buster

    This is why Trek Blue Error Nuker is targeted by Spybot:

    A pop-up caused by CoolWWWSearch.Aff.Winshow urges the user to download ErrorNuker in order to clean unwanted registry entries from the system. Having had to accept an unsatisfying privacy policy and having installed the program the PC is being scanned and 2 or 3 pseudo threats are reported. If the user tries to fix those a dialog pops up telling him that the threats cannot be fixed using the test version and that he will have to buy the full version for about 40 EUR.


    And here is another story about Trek Blue:
    Microsoft MVP. Consumer Security 2006-2014


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    I give up - your inability to provide clear information about this is extremely frustrating. You provided a response to the inital query, I asked Trek Blue for information about that and posted it, and then you keep repeating the initial response without commenting on Trek Blue's response.

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    I should state that I have no vested interest here. I could care less about the software or whether Spybot detects it - but where I see an injustice or bad logic, I have to voice my opinion..... (OK, well, actually, I donít like Trek Blue as a company, but thatís another story that doesnít factor into this)

    Because an advertisement shows up in adware is not proof positive that it's bad. I've even seen McAfee, Panda, Earthlink, etc. advertised through adware. Affiliates are notorious for slipping your ads into adware inventory even when expressly forbidden to.

    Because it uses the business model whereby it will scan, and then ask for money to clean is also not a valid reason. You'd have to flag about 1/2 of the Anti-Spyware Apps out there if that were the case. You'd also have to flag Registry Mechanic by PC Tools and Registry Cleaner by Software Online.

    If they (Trek Blue) use actual false positives to induce purchase - then that's very bad behavior making it a fraudulent act. That would warrant reporting them to the FTC, but not flagging it as spyware, malware, or adware (what is it flagged as?). But I don't see anyone making any definitive claims that it's an actual false positive here. Do I? Anyone?

    It seems to me that logic, rules, and criteria are not dictating the decision to 'detect' it, but rather a personal bias because of a past altercation with the company over a separate product. Perhaps the right question to ask here is: Tell me which targeting criteria it fails and why?

    http://www.safer-networking.org/en/t...icy/index.html

    So the bottom line here is that Spybot will never give an objective determination of the product, so, yes, it's time to give up on this. You should go elsewhere for guidance on whether it is quality software or not. Unfortunately I canít give you any advice in that regard. I have only ever used registry mechanic and it screwed my system up so I don't use anything now.

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    I am glad I am not the only one thinking this.

    Seems pretty obvious to me that when someone responds in a childish fashion (i.e. by not responding intelligently), their argument is usually without basis.

    I am also beginning to think that the lack of an intelligent response is due to 'sour grapes' because of a previous dispute with Trek Blue.

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