hi ken, just a hypothetical case here but if a person (me) didn't get around to taking care of business before the thread was closed could you please go over the uninstall procedure so i am sure to get it right. the tools on the machine are frst, aswmbr, minitool box, jrt, and adwcleaner. the fixes on the computer worked out great with no problems (thanks again!), and the tools aren't a bother to me its just i like learning how to use these things and that includes the uninstall. thanks again, scott