gave up, paid the $99
After several more tries, following more links and downloading other programs, here, to no avail, I gave up. My local repair guy said over the phone that unless it was very simple then copying files and then wiping the drives was probably what would happen. I went to Symantec virus removal service. For the $99 I got everything fixed, it took 3 1/2 hours of talking with several (5) nice Indian folks.
I guess that few here will be suprised to hear that the first thing they did was to remove the spybot, spyhunter, spynomore, saying that they part of the problem. For the moment I am disease free.
Thanks for your help, the best to you all.