View Full Version : Problems with Spybot v1.5.15 on W98SE
CharlesF
2007-09-14, 21:47
Is anyone having these kinds of problems with Spybot 1.5.15 running under Windows 98SE.
1. Spybot takes almost 2 minutes to open its UI
2. After I succussfully retrieve updates, and try to close the updates window, Spybot hangs (TaskManager reports it as NOT RESPONDING). Spybot's main window is not rewritten; part of window is replaced with a white outline of the previous updates windows
3. If I kill the hanging Spybot task, and then restart Spybot, the task will appear in TaskManager but the GUI will not open (at least not in the five minutes I waited).
4. If I start Spybot after a system restart, and I don't check for or get updates, I can immunize and run a scan successfully (although as others have noted, the CPU use goes up to 100%)
The only "odd" thing about my W98SE installation is that it is using the display adapter's LARGE FONTS.
Regards,
Charles
As a recent w98se user myself i stopped using spybot on that system over a year ago as it uses so much system resources (GDI/SYSTEM/USER)that it is just not compatabile with that system anymore,and because if its high resource usage can bring W98/98SE/AND ME to its knees.Personally i would uninstall it and use something else.To check how much of your system resources it uses start the resource meter....and then start spybot.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/300059....
or just navigate to to the windows folder directory and make a shortcut to "RSRCMTR.EXE
ellison
Is anyone having these kinds of problems with Spybot 1.5.15 running under Windows 98SE.
1. Spybot takes almost 2 minutes to open its UI
2. After I succussfully retrieve updates, and try to close the updates window, Spybot hangs (TaskManager reports it as NOT RESPONDING). Spybot's main window is not rewritten; part of window is replaced with a white outline of the previous updates windows
3. If I kill the hanging Spybot task, and then restart Spybot, the task will appear in TaskManager but the GUI will not open (at least not in the five minutes I waited).
4. If I start Spybot after a system restart, and I don't check for or get updates, I can immunize and run a scan successfully (although as others have noted, the CPU use goes up to 100%)
The only "odd" thing about my W98SE installation is that it is using the display adapter's LARGE FONTS.
Regards,
CharlesSame problem here with items 1 to 3, Charles. I admit upgrading from v1.3 (thought it had 1.4). I even rebooted. I think we made an error to install this on old old 98 SE OS' (all critical updates). :(
CharlesF
2007-09-17, 18:43
Can anyone at Safer Networking confirm that Spybot updates will continue to work with v1.4 for the foreseeable future.
Thanks
Hello.
Can anyone at Safer Networking confirm that Spybot updates will continue to work with v1.4 for the foreseeable future.
Thanks
You will still be able to download updates.
Please remember that WIN98 is no longer a supported Microsoft Operating System and therefore the OS itself cannot be patched or kept up to date.
Best regards.
CharlesF
2007-09-18, 19:31
Tashi,
MS's support for W98SE is neither here nor there. I have an app that only runs under Win98SE. And until I move to some kind of virtualized solution, or find another equivalent app, I'll be running my Windows 98 system alongside my XP one.
The problems I outlined running Spybot 1.5 under W98SE have very little to do with whether or not MS is still supporting it. So I think your comment is bit of a red herring.
Regards
Charles
Hello.
You will still be able to download updates.
Tashi,
MS's support for W98SE is neither here nor there. I have an app that only runs under Win98SE. And until I move to some kind of virtualized solution, or find another equivalent app, I'll be running my Windows 98 system alongside my XP one.
The problems I outlined running Spybot 1.5 under W98SE have very little to do with whether or not MS is still supporting it. So I think your comment is bit of a red herring.
Regards
Charles
Well not really because I answered that particular question. I would be lax if I didn't point out the insecurity of using an unsupported Operating System.
As to the other questions I will make a note for team.
Best regards.
If you read my measurements here in post #8 & #9 (http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=17881), it might be, that the problem is not related to the OS, but to the supposedly weaker hardware, where an W98 is installed.
On the other hand I am wondering about this: The changelog for 1.5 proudly pointed out, that the compatibility with Win 95 is back. Now, W95 is supposed to be installed on even weaker hardware than w98, so this achieved compatibility makes me wonder, how long the start-up of 1.5 will endure on those system. (They must exist, otherwise this point in the changelog would have no menaing.) And BTW, I agree, that w98 and WinME are comparibly to w2k and above no save systems, but in comparison to to W95 (not to forget, that you can upgrade IE on w95 at last to 5.0) they are more save. So, if W95 has been a point for the devs, w98 should work.
I also have some old apps, which do not perform in XP, so I need the w98 machine; out of this I cannot test (with to much risk), if the poor performance of 1.5 on the 1 GHz (mentioned in the other thread) will get even worse on w98.
DrDemento
2007-09-19, 16:14
Same problem noted here on 98SE. Got so frustrated I uninstalled 1.5 and went back to 1.4 which works like a dream. I would hope we can get some sort of notification if this problem gets fixed so we can again upgrade to 1.5 since updating became virtually impossible.
DrDemento
2007-09-30, 16:29
Downloaded the Beta Fix and installed. Start up time after clicking desktop icon is now normal again. Will not know if this Beta fix addressed the problem of updating until the next release of updates wednesday October 3.
Downloaded the Beta Fix and installed. Start up time after clicking desktop icon is now normal again. Will not know if this Beta fix addressed the problem of updating until the next release of updates wednesday October 3.Doc, is this next update referring to the updates like definitions? Or the whole SpyBot program? And how do you know it is October 3rd?
DrDemento
2007-09-30, 17:42
Doc, is this next update referring to the updates like definitions? Or the whole SpyBot program? And how do you know it is October 3rd?
I should have been clearer-Oct 3 is the next normally scheduled wednesday definitions update day. On this 98SE machine when updating definitions I could not get out of the update page-it would just freeze up and am hoping this Beta Fix has addressed this along with the delayed start up problem.
I should have been clearer-Oct 3 is the next normally scheduled wednesday definitions update day. On this 98SE machine when updating definitions I could not get out of the update page-it would just freeze up and am hoping this Beta Fix has addressed this along with the delayed start up problem.OK. Thanks. :)
Had same problems as top of this thread and have uninstalled 1.5 and gone back to 1.4. My laptop has Win98SE and 320MB of RAM. 1.4 has always worked well. Will look forward to a consolidated fixed version of 1.5 -- hope it comes out soon.
Thanks to helpful Replies from the Spybot team, I re-loaded 1.5.15 and then subbed the .exe. and .dll for 1.5.16 and it's working. HOWEVER, now my SpywareBlaster hangs when it tries to update the Protections for Mozilla/Firefox. Never happened before. (SpywareBlaster updates IE and Restricted Sites fast, then hangs on the automatic third update progress bar for Mozilla/Firefox.) Any ideas? Thanks again.
CharlesF
2007-10-03, 17:56
FYI, the latest beta (SpybotSD.exe-1.5.1.16-2007-09-24-issues-76-78-79-84-85 fixed ALL my outstanding problems running 1.5 under Win98SE.
Thanks to the Team
Regards,
Charles
I downloaded the fix, put the files into the appropriate folders, but the problem still persists. Namely, Spybot takes 5-6 minutes to appear after clicking.
Running Windows 98 se.
DrDemento
2007-10-04, 13:35
Definition update Oct 4th ran smoothly on my windows 98SE system. There was a brief delay on exiting but no freeze up. The Beta fix applied 9/24 seems to have corrected all the problems it was designed for-at least on my system.
safebear
2007-10-04, 14:07
I've used and recommended Spybot for about 4years.A couple of days ago I reported the new version on a forum for mainly broadband users and there is great concern at the slowness of loading.It has just taken 3mins.to load which is much slower than before.Earlier today I removed 1.5 and 1.4 and started again.Is the latest version always going to be slow? if so Ill go back to 1.4 and post accordingly on the other forum.Sorry to sound churlish for what is after all a very good, free program (Ok ,I will make a donation!)but it's frustrating to find a new version worse than an old one even if it is better in other ways.
My system is old but the problem has been noted by users of new,faster machines.
md usa spybot fan
2007-10-04, 16:46
safebear:
The slow startup of the original release of Spybot 1.5 is a known problem that has been fixed. See the following tracking task:
Find out about delayed user interface startup
http://forums.spybot.info/project.php?issueid=85
I have windows 98 se and my problem is with clicking on the Spybot icon and having to wait five minutes to start. Updates work fine. I downloaded the beta fix mentioned above,the same problem exists.
Disregard my last post above about taking five minutes to open Spybot on Windows 98 se. I uninstalled Spybot 1.5, then reinstalled, then loaded the fix again, and voila, it works.
Thanks