No more immunizations for Spybot version 1.4?

[pippizan]

Forgive me if this was posted before, but I searched and couldn't find anything, including the links given before posting this thread.

None of them apply to version 1.4.

I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 (384MB RAM) on a computer nearing 7 years old. I have no means to get a new computer so you understand why I am leery of taking the new version of Sbybot S&D. ;)

My problem is that while I am still getting the weekly updates for version 1.4, when I go to immunize, it always says all bad products are already blocked and the number stays at 41,555.

Immunize has had no new additions for at least the last 3 weeks.

Are you not providing this feature anymore for version 1.4?

Thanks for any help with this. :)

[129260]

i don't use version 4, but it should still be immunizing, because spybot will still get updates, and as far as i know, spybot hasn't ever stopped giving updates such as immunization. Are you sure the program is updated? And the new beta's work fine, i am just about to test the new version, new years version. but helloween edition worked great, and fixed all the main issues with the original spybot 1.5 :) so, you can try reinstalling spybot 1.4 if for another week or so it doesn't immunize. thats what i would do. But there is no reason at all to not try the new versions of spybot. If you want to be cautious though, create a restore point, (if your windows version supports it) before you install the newer spybot. Then that way, if anything goes wrong, just restore your system.
Here is the link to the very newest spybot: http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=22299
hope that helps. :bigthumb:

[pippizan]

i don't use version 4, but it should still be immunizing, because spybot will still get updates, and as far as i know, spybot hasn't ever stopped giving updates such as immunization. Are you sure the program is updated? And the new beta's work fine, i am just about to test the new version, new years version. but helloween edition worked great, and fixed all the main issues with the original spybot 1.5 :) so, you can try reinstalling spybot 1.4 if for another week or so it doesn't immunize. thats what i would do. But there is no reason at all to not try the new versions of spybot. If you want to be cautious though, create a restore point, (if your windows version supports it) before you install the newer spybot. Then that way, if anything goes wrong, just restore your system.
Here is the link to the very newest spybot: http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=22299
hope that helps. :bigthumb:

Ah yes, those wonderful restore points for the :oops: that can occur. :D:

I was thinking about trying that and seeing what happens.

Version 1.4 is updated for sure. I get the weekly updates but no immunizations at all, so that's why I thought perhaps they were really slowing down on support for the older version, but if that was the case, why still do regular updates but no immunizations?

Well, I'll see what happens if I decide to try the new version.

Thanks! :)

[md usa spybot fan]

pippizan:

Did you actually try to immunize by clicking the Immunize button at the top of the right hand pane?

[pippizan]

pippizan:

Did you actually try to immunize by clicking the Immunize button at the top of the right hand pane?


Top right?

Mine is on the left side, version 1.4 and yes, I have always used that to immunize and I have always used the integrated updater function with Spybot also.

I also had a friend check and she is using the same version and she has not gotten any immunizations either recently. Her numbers are also stuck at 41,555.

I don't understand why it stopped immunizing, unless that area of support for v1.4 is no longer happening.

According to what is in my Program Files for Spybot, this is what the version actually says.....1.4.0.3

I found one page that showed some downloads for v1.4, but they all stated that was IF you didn't use the integrated update tool that comes with Spybot, so I saw no need to do any of those downloads, since that is the way I always have updated.

Please understand my hesitation in trying the new version. If my computer messes up, I am dead in the water with no way to get another computer, so this is why I am trying to find out what is going on. :sad:

Appreciate any answers you can come up with, thanks. :)

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[129260]

lol ya i think what i said my help,....although maybe a member can help you better :) like md spybot fan

[pippizan]

Reinstall v1.4, yea, but where do I get the download for that?

Only option in add/remove is to remove.

I just want to know if they are pulling support for this version and if so, when. If not, why doesnt the immunization feature no longer work.

[129260]

as far as i know, they haven't ever stopped supporting a version of there program. there are places you can download older versions of spybot. try searching google with mcafee safe site advisor so u dont click on a bad link. theres no reason to not try the newer version. go ahead if u want. :)

[spybotsandra]

Hello,

This is the download link (http://www.spybotupdates.com/files/spybotsd14.exe) for the old version.

Best regards
Sandra
Team Spybot

[pippizan]

Hello,

This is the download link (http://www.spybotupdates.com/files/spybotsd14.exe) for the old version.

Best regards
Sandra
Team Spybot

Thank you Sandra. I will see what happens. :)

[pippizan]

I uninstalled my 1.4 version and installed the one I saved from Sandra's link and there is absolutely no change whatsoever.

Took all the updates, checked to immunize, nothing had changed at all.

For the longest time, Spybot always found the Microsoft Security Center information that I had turned off and warned me about it.

Now, it stopped finding that, right about the same time the immunizations stopped.

I have made no changes at all to my computer or its settings. I know others who are running the same version yet and they too are not getting any current immunizations.

I'll wait to see what happens with tomorrows updates, but I don't look to see any new immunizations offered like they had been.

It would be interesting to know, from those still running v1.4, if they are still showing 41555 as all the immunizations on their systems too.

Something happened somewhere along the line to change things. I'd just like to know what it was.

I'm sure this is not normal. :sad:

And once again, I will not try the new version yet. Not on this old computer. I cannot afford to be trying new software and from what I have been reading anyway, too many people with better, newer, and faster PC's than what I have, are still having problems!

[PepiMK]

The security center stuff should have been optimized (I'll have to check whether it really has, I just took place in making plans on how to do it), so that it would only show if no other security application that changes that setting is installed.

I'll have to ask about the immunization count, or better wait until Buster is back tomorrow, he'll know when it has been updated last etc..

Btw, the final 1.5.2 is finished, sent to mirrors already, should be out very soon :)

[129260]

ya hopefully they can give you an answer soon man. and fyi mostly everyone that tried the new beta are not experiencing many probs. I have experienced any at all. But the final version will be out soon like they said above, so just wait :)

[pippizan]

The security center stuff should have been optimized (I'll have to check whether it really has, I just took place in making plans on how to do it), so that it would only show if no other security application that changes that setting is installed.

I'll have to ask about the immunization count, or better wait until Buster is back tomorrow, he'll know when it has been updated last etc..

Btw, the final 1.5.2 is finished, sent to mirrors already, should be out very soon :)

PepiMK, not sure I understand what you meant about the security center stuff being optimized though. Are you saying it should not show up anymore?

I do know that when it didn't show up for the first time in a long time, I went and checked and somehow, the settings had been changed to notify me and I always keep that turned off. I do better without having all that garbage in my systray area. ;)
As I said, I have not changed or added anything at all to my PC, other than Windows updates earlier this month.

Will appreciate to know what you all have to say about the immunize numbers too.

I'll keep an eye out for the answer in this thread, thanks!

Okay, one last question. IF and when I get brave and decide to try the newest version, will all the fixes and updates be available in one download and will further fixes be available through updates or would you need to check here and take more downloads?

Thanks again! :)

[129260]

"PepiMK, not sure I understand what you meant about the security center stuff being optimized though. Are you saying it should not show up anymore?"

i think she is saying it should detect it fine, and let you know if a change was made in the security center without your consent. Meaning, it should still show up in the scan results, unless you chose to ignore it. after ignoring it it shouldn't show up again.

"Okay, one last question. IF and when I get brave and decide to try the newest version, will all the fixes and updates be available in one download and will further fixes be available through updates or would you need to check here and take more downloads?"

Usually fixes for spybot are found here in the forums, (on the main spybot page the final version is displayed, meaning no beta's.) they are not downloaded from the program directly. That would be nice, but hey this program is free, so I'm not going to complain ;) The release that is coming out tomorrow will no longer be a beta i believe, (final version) with all fixes included. (for example-the slow startup of spybot, and the teatimer bugs.) If you experience any problems in the future with spybot, you should come back to the forums, and check if a beta fix is available for your problem. As always, if you have a prob in the future, search the forums for it, and if you cant find your prob. make a new thread. :D:

[pippizan]

Well, not sure what happened but the immunize numbers did finally go up.

I took the 2 updates, then clicked on Immunize and got the message that all known products were already blocked, so I went and clicked again on Immunize (by the green plus sign on top) and this time it said 41637 are now blocked.

So, looks like it is back to immunizing again, just doing it differently than before.
Before I would get a message saying there were x number that were blcoked and it would tell me to immunize. Looks like this is something that is being automatically done the first time now without the extra step.

Thanks!! :)

As for the security center thing, still confused on that. If I have the SC turned off, I should get a notice from Spybot when I run the scan, but I don't get that anymore.

[129260]

happy to hear that man.
"As for the security center thing, still confused on that. If I have the SC turned off, I should get a notice from Spybot when I run the scan, but I don't get that anymore."

When you turn the security center off yourself, you dont have it check anything, or your firewall and antiviruis turn it off, you wont be notified. You will only be notified when a change that happens within security center that was without your consent. It is also possible you ignored the alert, by right clicking the result and clicking ignore, and u just forgot. ether way, i don't believe it is anything to wry about. Just make sure you are running a firewall and antiviruis, and anti spyware programs. :bigthumb:

[pippizan]

happy to hear that man.
"As for the security center thing, still confused on that. If I have the SC turned off, I should get a notice from Spybot when I run the scan, but I don't get that anymore."

When you turn the security center off yourself, you dont have it check anything, or your firewall and antiviruis turn it off, you wont be notified. You will only be notified when a change that happens within security center that was without your consent. It is also possible you ignored the alert, by right clicking the result and clicking ignore, and u just forgot. ether way, i don't believe it is anything to wry about. Just make sure you are running a firewall and antiviruis, and anti spyware programs. :bigthumb:

Hi again. :)

I have to disagree with your assessment of the security center issue.

I have gone in and checked several times prior to running a scan and it has been shut off yet, I was still notified by Spybot.

This last time, after taking the latest Windows updates, the security center notification HAD changed, and yet I wasn't notified this time by Spybot.
If, the Windows update changed my settings for some reason, is Spybot reading that as something that I did myself? If so, that isn't right.

So, do you see the confusion?

When I would get the warning, I would go ahead, without thinking and tell Spybot to fix it. Then, when I would start getting notices about updates etc, I would go in and see what happened after I let Spybot fix the warning. Understandably stupid at times! :red: So, I just didn't fix it anymore.
However, even after I had shut down the SC, I was still getting notified by Spybot.

Here is from my last notification from Spybot, from the Jan 4th log, this year.


04.01.2008 10:16:40 - ##### check started #####
04.01.2008 10:16:40 - ### Version: 1.4
04.01.2008 10:16:40 - ### Date: 1/4/2008 10:16:40 AM
04.01.2008 10:16:41 - ##### checking bots #####
04.01.2008 10:51:08 - found: Microsoft.WindowsSecurityCenter.UpdateDisableNotify Settings

I had/have nothing set to ignore so that wasn't it. I don't tend to fool with the settings too much in these programs. The default settings ususally work pretty good for me. ;)

My only concern was that the program simply wasn't running the same as it had been for a while, that's all.

I am constantly amazed at the number of people who state they don't use either a firewall or AV programs.

I have both and would not even consider going online without either one of them. :wink:

Good grief, that would be like running around naked outside and the current temp here is 17 degrees F!! :eek:

[129260]

"I have to disagree with your assessment of the security center issue.

I have gone in and checked several times prior to running a scan and it has been shut off yet, I was still notified by Spybot.

This last time, after taking the latest Windows updates, the security center notification HAD changed, and yet I wasn't notified this time by Spybot.
If, the Windows update changed my settings for some reason, is Spybot reading that as something that I did myself? If so, that isn't right.

So, do you see the confusion?"

yes i do, your right, that is odd. I guess i didn't get what you said completely before. hmm, so it no longer detects a change, and doesn't notify you, when before it did? weird.
Well, i have no prob. admitting i have run out of things to tell u, sry. :sad:
Maybe a spybot team member can help you with this better. GOOD LUCK!! :)

[pippizan]

yes i do, your right, that is odd. I guess i didn't get what you said completely before. hmm, so it no longer detects a change, and doesn't notify you, when before it did? weird.


Yep, that's exactly what it is.

It could be just something fluky with the security center also, after all, we ARE dealing with Microsoft! LOL

Hopefully, someone from the team will be able to address this. I know PepiMK did mention it in his last post. ;)

Not losing sleep over it, just want to know if something was changed on Spybot's end to make it act differently, that's all. :)

[129260]

well i did my best to help lol. good luck man