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emeraldfawkes
2008-08-15, 20:22
I'm running Firefox 3 and McAffee security. I never had a problem immunizing until just recently. I've downloaded all the updates and run Spybot in the default mode, I'm not very experienced. When I try to immunize, it protects 91688, leaving 27773 unprotected. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
SEE THERE : (Topic Immunize)
http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=29722
Perhaps you'll find a solution in advice given there :
http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=30681
Personnaly, I still didn't find a solution...
Bon courage!
I'm running Firefox 3 and McAffee security. I never had a problem immunizing until just recently. I've downloaded all the updates and run Spybot in the default mode, I'm not very experienced. When I try to immunize, it protects 91688, leaving 27773 unprotected. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
Emerald,
If you ARE using Spybot 1.6.0.30 or 31, AND if the ones NOT being immunised are:-
Firefox cookies
Firefox images
Firefox installations
Firefox popups
IF you are using XP, goto
c:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\????
Because you are using Firefox 3, you should find a file there called "permissions.sqlite", and you should NOT find a file there called "hostperm.1"
If BOTH are there delete hostperm.1.
Reboot
Open your Firefox browser, then close it again
Open Spybot, Undo all of the immunisations, then immunise again
Post back and tell us whether that fixed the problem. If it didn't please provide details of Spybot version & Operating system, also whether your installation of Firefox 3 was done as an upgrade to an existing Firefox 2, or a clean install of Firefox 3.
Well, thanx, because I asked the same question here :
http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=29722
Everybody's always giving the same advice, but IT DOES NOT WORK FOR ME : Doing what you telle us to do didn't change anything.
Quote from topic "Immunize" http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=29722
<<< Thanx for answering
Well, I tried everything suggested on this forum without any result.
Then, I tried to reset all my Firefox preferences and profile.
I tried to see if Firefox was still "working" afterthat, : it did.
I tried again to immunize : no more improvement, still the same problems.
I lauched SpybotS&D for browsing everything. At the end of browsing, when I wanted to "fix all problems", a Microsoft window told that it had to close the Spybot program for security (before corrections were done).
Afterthat, Firefox didn't work!!!
After hours trying to fix the problem (in windows data(?)/données in French protection, setting Spybot S&D in "exceptions"), Everything was blocked.
(Difficult for me to explain and translate what I did in English, like "système de prévention des données Microsoft" for instance...)
I had to reset/restart computer and retore system as it was yesterday.
Is it because I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.16???
I still don't want to go to Firefox 3, because when I tried, I lost all my favorites.
People from French Firefox forum Geckozone cannot answer my questions either.
I'm kind of desperate.
Ad-Aware is too heavy and runs too slowly...
Perhaps I should try AVG full security version, but it's expensive and seems not to be compatible with other security systems...
It's such a mess..
What do you think about these experiences?
Should i have 2 Anti-spyware, 3 firewalls and 3 antivirus to be peaceful and quiet again???? >>>
Tashi didn't understand my humour and answered :
How many firewalls and anti virus programs do you have installed?
Also what is your operating system?
I Answered :
Anti virus : avast familial ed.
Firewall : only Windows firewall...Because I had problems with ZoneAlarm, due to a Microsoft security update that caused incompatibilities w/ ZoneAlarm : no internet browsers functioned after that!! Related in www.secuser.com
http://download.zonealarm.com/bin/fr...sIssue_fr.html
Antispy : Spybot Search&Destroy
WindowsXP pack3 on a very very old second hand hp notebook (2002!!!),all reconfigured and updated by myself...
Finally :
NEW TODAY !
NO IMMUNIZATION AT ALL !
Guess program & Teatimer is totally unusefull now...[/COLOR]
Really sorry for that.
(Microsoft Windows seems to have an offenssive commercial politics against freeware (ZoneAlarm, SpybotS&D and so on...) and probably would prefer I BUY some of it's partnership program???????...)
[COLOR="Red"]So now, after uninstall, re-install SpybotS&D, NOTHING WORKS ANYMORE AND NO IMMUNIZATION CAN BE DONE AT ALL... :mad:
What about me? Why no answer to my immunization problem????
Afterall, I did open a topic about this problem first, tried to help "emeraldfawkes" who asked the same question in a new topic.
HE had an answer and I did not! WHY????
Zététix,
I have to say that is not considered polite to hijack someone elses thread, and even less so to shout.
My advice was for Emerald, and Emerald only. If it worked for Emerald I'm happy I was able to help, if it didn't at least it rules out that possible fix.
Greyfox said :I have to say that is not considered polite to hijack someone elses thread, and even less so to shout.
:fear:
I consider it’s not polite to create a thread “Immunization” to ask exactly the same questions and describe exactly the same problems as in the topic “Immunize”.:nono:
Why not opening a thread called “Immuniz€” or Immuniz@tion” or "Immunity" "imunyti", "ymunity" and so on???
Are the help solutions reserved to only one person or should it be useful for everybody? What's that sense of "community"???
Sorry if I “shout” : my eyes are weak and tired from hours in front of my computer screen to find solutions...:blink:
But I considered that it was Emerald who “hijacked” the thread “Immunize”, by asking the same questions (and get the same answers) : This prooves he didn’t try FIRST to find an answer or solution in the forum (as I did) before posting.
:bow:
Why not opening a thread called “Immuniz€” or Immuniz@tion” or "Immunity" "imunyti", "ymunity" and so on??? :laugh:
Are the help solutions reserved to only one person or should it be useful for everybody? What's that sense of "community"???
good question.
maybe the threads should be locked for others than the original poster, and only let the "spybot team" and "advisor team" answer the questions if that is what the team wants.
i have seen in some of the threads i have made myself that the team starts to answer questions and then disappears and are not finishing the thread for some reason.
Zététix, blues,
If you read the posts carefully you will see that Zététix's problem is NOT the same as that of Emerald's, because one is using Firefox 2 and one is using Firefox 3, and it was on this basis that I stated that the advice I had posted in this particular thread started by Emerald was for Emerald only - it does not apply to Zététix because of the different version browser.
emeraldfawkes
2008-08-19, 00:04
Sorry for the delay in response time.
I'm running an update of Firefox 2, not a clean download. I looked for the file "permissions.sqlite" but it was not there. I tried deleting just the "hostperm.1" file and following the instructions after that and ended up with about 6000 unprotected and about 5000 protected. The unprotected files were all of Firefox cookies, images, installations and popups.
I restored the hostperm.1 file, so everything is the same as it was when I began this thread. There are now 54558 unprotected files and 64903 protected files.
I guess there's actually a real problem with freewares running with Microsoft Windows OS.
More precisions :
1) A few weeks ago, a Microsoft update caused some incompatibility with ZoneAlarm firewall : No web browser could run after that.
Zonelabs reported the problem in user's newsletter... I had 3 days of :hair:, restoring my system at the point before the Windows update, so I can return on the Web... to find solutions...
2) Same problem to update Firefox : I loaded Firefox 3... and had many many problems afterthat (could'nt find my bookmarks and Google favorites and so on...). So I went back to Firefox 2.0.0.16 !!!
So, I've been spending a lot of time and energy with these issues (on FAQs, help or tutorial sites and forums, including this one...), trying to get rid of many "bizarre" problems and learn a little more about the inner microsoft system...
I've noticed that many many people had the same problems...
I never had such problems before two months ago...
I'm not an informatic specialist at all and I do not know anything about registry, processes, profiles and so on...
I guess I have to go on holidays for a while now!!!:red:
My opinion is that Microsoft company has a very very offensive politics for hegemony of its system and affiliates, (and, for example, sell worlwide its Vista OS, with IE or msn...), and is leading a war against "freeware communities" and people fighting for privacy rights and freedom...
(Hu... I'm not sure my English is understandable:oops:)
Yes I had kind of a real BLUES breakdown!!!
what breakdown is that?
maybe you should let out your frustration in the tavern instead.:police:
Sorry for the delay in response time.
I'm running an update of Firefox 2, not a clean download. I looked for the file "permissions.sqlite" but it was not there. I tried deleting just the "hostperm.1" file and following the instructions after that and ended up with about 6000 unprotected and about 5000 protected. The unprotected files were all of Firefox cookies, images, installations and popups.
I restored the hostperm.1 file, so everything is the same as it was when I began this thread. There are now 54558 unprotected files and 64903 protected files.
Emerald,
When one starts with an XP-HOME SP3 system that has never had Firefox (any version) installed, but does have the Spybot 1.6.0.30 or 31 installed, and Firefox 3.0.1 is then installed from the Admin account (default standard recommended installation) the following is observed.
At the end of the installation and after an initial open of the FF3 browser, the permissions.sqlite file is found at C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\fnwb3fgn.default and it is 2k.
A Spybot immunise can then be made and works correctly, resulting in the permissions.sqlite file increasing to 931kB.
If one deletes this permissions.sqlite, and then runs Spybot and an immunise, the immunise will not work on the Firefox items, however it will cause another permissions.sqlite file to be generated - its size is 0k.
If one deletes this permissions.sqlite file, then runs the Firefox browser, it will generate a new permissions.sqlite file, this time 2k, the same size as the original, and one can then immunise correctly in Spybot.
At no stage is a hostperm.1 file generated, because the hosperm.1 file is relative to Firefox 2, not Firefox 3.
I believe the solution to your problem is to uninstall Firefox 3 completely, and to remove any files or folders it may leave orphaned. In particular if there is any Mozilla folders in C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\ then delete them.
If you don't already have Spybot current version 1.6.0.30 or 31 installed, uninstall the Spybot version you do have completely. Then download and install the current version.
Once this has been done, re-install Firefox 3. Check the location of the permissions.sqlite file and it should be as given above. If for some reason its size is 0k, you could try priming it by manually adding a couple of sites that cookies should be accepted from. (Open Firefox, Click on Tools, then Options, then Privace, then under Cookies click on Exceptions and type in a couple of Web site addresses and for each click on Allow. then click on close, then OK. Shut browser, check that permissions.sqlite is now larger than 0K, then Immunise.
I hope this helps.
what breakdown is that?
maybe you should let out your frustration in the tavern instead.:police:
Hu hu hu! This is a very constructive remark!
("Blues" was only an answer to Greyfox' saying "Zététix, blues", and perhaps kind of "apologize"...)
Aren't YOU frustrated not to be able to give good advice, as Greyfox does?:rolleyes:
Aren't YOU frustrated not to be able to give good advice, as Greyfox does?
i dont care. i am not surprised if this posts gets deleted, and i couldnt care less.
.. for this particular.
… In particular if there is any Mozilla folders in C:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\ then delete them.
Possibly a further 'small point' caveat for those who may also have SeaMonkey in addition .. do not delete the %appdata% Mozilla directory as it contains both Firefox and SeaMonkey profiles (the SeaMonkey branch is identified by the *.slt dir in the path, the FF one is a subdir from Mozilla named Firefox of all things :) ).
If you delete your profile, be prepared to re-do all your personal settings, passwords, bookmarks and addons that were installed to the profile location (the usual method since the profile is generally left alone when FF is uninstalled from the app dir .. people have been known to become irate when they need to re-do the whole deal or they did not back up all that info).
On a side note, I found a nice page relating to Mozilla and Netscape(old) as well as SeaMonkey's profile location and details of the files therein here (http://www.holgermetzger.de/pdl.html) at Holger Metzger's pages. The Firefox and Thunderbird info may not be terribly recent (my FF profile dirs have had a .default 'suffix' for awhile, now .. if any - portable app style FFs are another case entirely). The world is a wide and varied place :laugh:
How can after deleating SeaMonkey and then running immunize can SB still try and immunize something that is no longer there?