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EarlZ
2008-12-03, 23:48
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1782/spybotbp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
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Firefox version 3.0.4 w/ Adblock and flashgot only.
Spybot S&D 1.6 w/ updates.

Nothing my on firefox excemption list, Vista ultimate x64 w/ SP1 + latest updates

and why is there 32, 32/64 and 64 as separate tabs.. seems kinda redundant the 32/64 single profile is good enough.

PepiMK
2008-12-04, 01:01
The "32/64 bit" part are user registry keys that are independent of the architecture, the separate 2 and 64 bit kyes are global for the two browser versions.

Redundant maybe... redundancy can be regarded as a security feature as well of course ;)

Is it Portable Firefox? That would be supported only in 1.6.1 (on the doorstep) / 2.0 (beta end of year).

Has 3.0.4 any bigger changes? Did just see that my browsers test system still has 3.0.3, will have to install update next to check...

EarlZ
2008-12-04, 09:39
Regular firefox, on my XP machine it has immunization for firefox 3.0.4

EarlZ
2008-12-04, 10:53
Im pretty sure i saw firefox immunizations on my vista some time ago. i just forgot w/c specific version it worked with.

EarlZ
2008-12-04, 13:17
I ment redundant in terms of display since im a single user on my PC

EarlZ
2008-12-04, 21:17
Tried reinstalling both firefox and S&D, still nothing :sad:

PepiMK
2008-12-05, 13:31
Redundant in terms of display: yes and no. For ease of use, you're right. For trying to locate problems, the full detail range helps. Hmmm... good point, thanks, we'll discuss this a bit regarding possible solutions to make it look more simple.

The file that Spybot uses to detect Firefox is prefs.js in the profile folder. It starts looking in C:\Users\(username)\AppData\(Local or Roaming or direct)\Mozilla\Firefox\profiles.ini and looks in the profiles listed there for prefs.js.
Could you please check whether you have that file?

A workaround might be using the undocumented Portable Firefox support feature in 1.6.1.

EarlZ
2008-12-06, 00:01
Redundant in terms of display: yes and no. For ease of use, you're right. For trying to locate problems, the full detail range helps. Hmmm... good point, thanks, we'll discuss this a bit regarding possible solutions to make it look more simple.

The file that Spybot uses to detect Firefox is prefs.js in the profile folder. It starts looking in C:\Users\(username)\AppData\(Local or Roaming or direct)\Mozilla\Firefox\profiles.ini and looks in the profiles listed there for prefs.js.
Could you please check whether you have that file?

A workaround might be using the undocumented Portable Firefox support feature in 1.6.1.

Yes i have it there, so whats this work around ?

PepiMK
2008-12-08, 10:05
Sorry, I noticed the paths are different in Firefox Portable, thus this (http://forums.spybot.info/project.php?issueid=346) would not work. Where exactly did you find prefs.js ?

EarlZ
2008-12-08, 13:44
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\rl19akyr.default

PepiMK
2008-12-09, 11:59
I did upload a new BrowserCI version (http://forums.spybot.info/downloads.php?id=26) that displays a log tab showing the various steps of detectiing browsers. Could you please copy'n'paste that log here? It might show where it stops.

PepiMK
2008-12-09, 15:22
Ouch, didn't expect that the Mozilla section would be completely empty. That means he didn't even find the profiles.ini file. Which probably means a problem determining the appdata path (which, since it should work for inactive accounts as well, is a bit more complex than usual).

I'll see if I can extend the log (and possibly detection) to find out more...

PepiMK
2008-12-09, 16:01
Update: have you tried the 1.6.1 beta? While looking for possible reasons I just noticed that we had updated the appdata folder detection shortly after the release of 1.6.0 for those cases where the registry did not contain the shell appdata folder info (the registry is not the proper place anyway usually... but the only if you want to deal with multiple user accounts).

The old registry only method would use this:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\AppData=C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming

EarlZ
2008-12-09, 17:44
@borhes

We may have a similar problem but please do no hijack my thread,if you want to join in politely say so!



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


[ Internet Explorer ]
+ Added default entry.
. Probing entry for user SID .DEFAULT...
+ Added entry for .DEFAULT.
. Probing entry for user SID S-1-5-18...
+ Added entry for S-1-5-18.
. Probing entry for user SID S-1-5-19...
+ Added entry for S-1-5-19.
. Probing entry for user SID S-1-5-20...
+ Added entry for S-1-5-20.
. Probing entry for user SID S-1-5-21-1000365150-3690584322-3553714069-1000...
+ Added entry for S-1-5-21-1000365150-3690584322-3553714069-1000.

[ Opera ]
. Probing possible profile in C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\...
. Probing possible profile in C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera7\profile\...
. Probing possible profile in C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera75\profile\...
. Probing possible profile in C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera80\profile\...
. Probing possible profile in C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera90\profile\...

[ Mozilla Firefox & compatibles ]

[ Mozilla Firefox Portable & compatibles ]

[ Google Chrome ]

Thats the contents of my Log. I'll try 1.6.1


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Split off borhes posts to own thread. :) http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=41197

EarlZ
2008-12-09, 18:01
Tried Spybot S&D 1.6.1 Beta, still no firefox immunization.

PepiMK
2008-12-09, 23:41
I'll update the test tomorrow to show even more small steps to make sure we find the source of this. Could you meanwhile check the aforementioned registry value? Does it exist? Is it empty?

EarlZ
2008-12-10, 04:28
I'll update the test tomorrow to show even more small steps to make sure we find the source of this. Could you meanwhile check the aforementioned registry value? Does it exist? Is it empty?

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders

The directory tree stops till there and contains 3 registry keys

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4873/regkeyjm7.th.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=regkeyjm7.jpg)

PepiMK
2008-12-10, 19:30
That makes it quite complicated to find any place in the registry to use...

I've updated BrowserCI (as our browser testfield) with a few other attempts at re-using other registry keys to use to find out the AppData path, as well as - the official way but not multi-user compatble - falling back to API calls.

Hope this'll be able to detect Firefox; in that case I could port the changes to Spybot as well.

EarlZ
2008-12-10, 23:37
[ Mozilla Firefox & compatibles ]
. Looking at profiles for user with SID S-1-5-21-1000365150-3690584322-3553714069-1000...
. A: Found Shell Folder AppData registry information: \
. B: Found AppData environment information: C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\
. Final AppData found: C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\
. Probing profile ini file file at C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\profiles.ini...
. Found profile reference to C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\rl19akyr.default\.
i cookies.sqlite detected, assuming profile is Firefox 3.0 or equivalent.
+ Added Mozilla profile at C:\Users\Earl Benson\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\rl19akyr.default\.
i Browser detection took 00.010 seconds.

[ Mozilla Firefox Portable & compatibles ]
i Browser detection took 00.000 seconds.

sfdxsm
2008-12-11, 01:09
I also had this problem on a 32bit vista machine a while back. My only conclusion was a botched Firefox issue when I restored my profile after a system loss. I posted here but we never figured it out.

Have you done anything regarding backing up or restoring your Firefox installation/profile? I.E. using a program called Mozbackup?

My post (http://forums.spybot.info/showthread.php?t=34525) for reference.

EarlZ
2008-12-11, 01:46
No, never done any backups, all i do is bookmark import/export

PepiMK
2008-12-11, 19:59
Thanks EarlZ, looks like it is detected now, will try to put it into the 1.6.1 release candidate (that probably would've been out already otherwise, so its near)!

EarlZ
2008-12-12, 00:49
Thanks EarlZ, looks like it is detected now, will try to put it into the 1.6.1 release candidate (that probably would've been out already otherwise, so its near)!

I have to thank you for personally handling this problem.

Thanks :bigthumb::bigthumb::bigthumb:

EarlZ
2008-12-12, 04:14
Around when is the next release w/ this fix bound to be released?

EarlZ
2008-12-23, 19:53
I made a fresh install of vista w/ SP1 on another machine and installed firefox 3.0.5 and ran it a few times did a reboot and installed spybot S&D still no immunization for vista

PepiMK
2008-12-24, 09:13
Was that with this version (http://forums.spybot.info/downloads.php?id=44)?

EarlZ
2009-01-06, 16:44
I downloaded the .38 version since that was the only on available during that time, ill try the .41 now

EarlZ
2009-01-06, 16:53
sweet, it now works. thank you.