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siljaline
2005-10-23, 22:35
Hi,
Nice to see an independant SpyBot Forum away from Net-Integration ;)
Could I suggest a Test area for new users to scribble stuff, that's usually de-facto for most Boards.
I'd also like to see a Board News area, too, upcoming events, etc.
Regards,
Silj
md usa spybot fan
2005-10-24, 00:44
Since siljaline (http://forums.spybot.info/member.php?find=lastposter&t=45) suggested a "... a Test area for new users to scribble stuff ..." and had to post that suggestion in the Spybot-S&D Forum, perhaps a "Safer Networking Forums" "Suggestion and/or Feedback" area (forum/sub-forum) would be appropriate.
Respectfully submitted,
md usa spybot fan
I can only agree if these forums are intended to be permanent.
No one has addressed that question at this point and if Net-Integration returns, I'm not sure it's a good idea to have two 'official' forum sites. The more that is built here, the harder it is to close it down if that is the plan.
Until this determination is made, I'd keep the complexity here to a minimum. I'm treating these forums as an emergency temporary replacement until it is officially stated otherwise by Patrick himself.
http://forums.spywareinfo.com/index.php?showtopic=59282&view=findpost&p=310269
Apluswebmaster posted the above,if you haven't seen it.
Thanks Zenobia, I hadn't, though that's what I had assumed.
It still, however, doesn't address what is intended for these forums once NI is fully back in operation. It would be nice if Patrick would address that so we know how much effort should be expended here.
The other thing that would have been appropriate is for Patrick and/or Eagle1 to have posted a simple pinned thread to that effect here. Speculation can't occur if official notice is given. There is the following posted at NI, but that won't even be reached by those who've saved a direct link to the NI forums and don't realize why it's broken as we did.
http://net-integration.net/forums.html
I had some thoughts/concerns/questions too. I posted to that thread at SWI as well as @ http://www.spywarewarrior.com/viewtopic.php?t=17226
I wasn't going to raise any off topic querries here but since there are already a couple of threads on the subject, there are some very puzzling aspects to all this going on.
Like;
Why did NI move to a low level host instead of just to another box as would be standard procedure with any server farm?
Why were all other domains shut down without even notifying the owners/users.
How could any kind of crash cause this kind of down time? My box could completely burn up and I'd be back in a matter of hours using my backups.
Since it seems totally unfeasible to try to maintain two support boards, why this board?
Sorry guys, these kind of questions just tend to fuel the curiosity in me as well as others.
Though I'm just as curious as you about the reasons, I know they're really none of my business. My only concern is the smoothest transition possible to and from the assumed temporary location here.
We (knowledgeable users, admins) all know there can be complex side effects to such database failures that extend downtime, and again they're really none of our business though we'd really like to be 'in the know'. The only expectation we can reasonably have is that we'll be informed of alternatives and what is intended.
In this case I feel we have had to try to glean this information from snippets of information located in several, often unoffical, locations. The only official links from the main Spybot S&D Support page and at the NI Forums page each give only partial information.
The only thing I'd really like to see is a two sentence explanation pinned here that states this is the official temporary SS&D site and that it will be closed once NI is back up and fully functional, which seems to be what is planned. At this point I'm making this statement as a partially informed guess and I don't like doing that. Until someone from the Team or Eagle1 states something more official, this is what I have to assume.
http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2005-10-24.html
Due to software problems (you may remember that the Net-Integration forum was using Invision PowerBoard, which we wrote about a few weeks ago), health problems of our U.S. administrator and reorganization of support staff, we've set up new support forums on our Safer Networking servers. The hopefully last setup has been made today, and we encourage you to use it as much as you did on the Net-Integration site.
Seems a bit more permanent.
md usa spybot fan
2005-10-24, 17:23
re:
... (you may remember that the Net-Integration forum was using Invision PowerBoard, which we wrote about a few weeks ago) ...
See:
Possible privacy violation in one of the major bulletin board systems
http://www.spybot.info/en/news/2005-09-12.html
Seems a bit more permanent.
Indeed it does.
Congratulations Team Spybot. Thank you for providing a very professional site for obtaining assistance.
Die Hard
2005-10-24, 19:22
Good luck with the new forum :)
Die Hard :)
I must chime in also and wish everyone the best with the new site. I must say that it "feels" right being on a Spybot Search & Destroy site!
Funny how the rumors start... out of nothingness.. :P
Quote: "I suppose it was the same major crash that also knocked out MalwareBytes, Besttechie & Security Central. What a shame"
Invision licence being terminated would be a good reason for the site to not work =)
Some people just don't read :D
Cheers
-Brent
Hello everyone, glad you all made it here!
Cheers. :)
Invision licence being terminated would be a good reason for the site to not work =)
Some people just don't read :D
Cheers
-Brent
I guess we don't read. I also guess those of us curious and a little in the know wouldn't think that he lost/crashed his box and had to move to a low level host instead of taking a few hours to move into another box just because of a software EULA all while dropping and never saying a word to any of the clients he hosted. I'm so glad you set us straight.
Shall we get back to reality? I hadn't meant to post to this topic here again but I don't much care about fairy tales and just felt the need to say so.
I was referencing this notice, originally posted on spybot.info under support:
Invision Powerboard by Invision Power Services, Inc.
is a forum software used by many, according to their
own site including huge companies like AMD, Sony,
Yahoo!, Sharp, nVidia and others. But going commercial
was not the only change - when we recently wanted to
buy a license, we found out that the links to their
privacy policy and contact page were broken. We tried
to contact them about this, requesting information
about their privacy policy, but instead of receiving
this information, our license was suddenly terminated.
And after a more formal way of inquiring about their
privacy policy, our account into their Client Area was
cancelled as well - again without any explanation by
email.
Privacy policy and contact information are now again
available from their start page, but the Client Area,
where this information is most important, still
includes invalid links.
From the valid link, I found the sentence "You can
access all your personally identifiable information
that we collect online and maintain by emailing our
privacy department or otherwise contacting our
company.". This part of their own privacy policy they
already violated when we did request our information.
I wonder what other parts of their privacy policy they
are violating? The email address mentioned in their
privacy policy is broken and all mails are being
bounced. Seeing the list of existing clients, I wonder
if all these clients have actually agreed to have
their name posted as a customer of Invision Power
Services, Inc., or if this is just another violation
of their privacy policy. We're investigating this with
the mentioned clients.
An official statement from IPS I requested did neither
answer the question why the privacy policy link and
privacy policy email address are broken. The
explanation why our account was deleted and license
terminated was that they did not like the tone of our
fourth mail requesting assistance with their broken
privacy policy and the license. The request for access
to the stored information was denied because the
information was said to be completely deleted, while
at the same time the email referenced to parts of that
information that are obviously still stored (update:
on 13th we received another mail from a person that
didn't even know our account was cancelled, regarding
our account - so obviously by far not all data was
deleted as said).
From our standpoint, we can only strongly recommend
against using the board software from this company (at
least on new systems) until privacy matters have been
improved at IPS, Inc.
From various straws, I have concluded that this is the new permanent support forum for Spybot - whether or not N-I forums come back.
I'm really cnm, but the software here insisted on name having 5 characters or more. :)
Well Brent, your comment about no one reading seems a little strange since that 'notice' you ref to(I read it when it was posted) doesn't answer or even have any bearing on any of the many questions that those curious have posed. I know for a fact that Ahmad's clients who were screwed want answers and folks like me just want their curiosity quenched.
Since you seem to think you know the answers well enough to make comments like "Funny how the rumors start... out of nothingness.. :P' & "Some people just don't read' , perhaps you would care to answer the querries I mentioned earlier in this thread instead of making meaningless comments that don't answer to anything.
"Like;
Why did NI move to a low level host instead of just to another box as would be standard procedure with any server farm?
Why were all other domains shut down without even notifying the owners/users.
How could any kind of crash cause this kind of down time? My box could completely burn up and I'd be back in a matter of hours using my backups.
Since it seems totally unfeasible to try to maintain two support boards, why this board?"
EDIT: I know it is doubtfull that any answers will ever come out and I'd just as soon not reply to this thread again. However, if Brent or anyone else wants to insult our intelligence with nonsense, then I'll be obliged to step on it.
Personally, I'm very glad to see PMK move to his own board/site. I think it's one of his best decisions.
If NI is anything like me, I had issues with my colo provider, killed my account, and moved on to a different provider. I was back up within a couple of hours just as you stated you were capable of, but all of it was sparked by a dead HD. Yes, backups were in place, but if I was going to restore / start over with a new machine, I didn't want to do it @ the same provider.
But it happens..
I wouldn't consider Liquid Web low level hosting though..
*shrugs*
I wouldn't consider Liquid Web low level hosting though..
I think you missed the mark again. While LiquidWeb is a medium-large provider(managed services_yuk), his 'low level' host is not. He is now hosted by http://anrhost.com/ who in turn is hosted by LiquidWeb. You would have known that if you had followed the link in my first post. Guess you didn't read...ironic.
10/21/05 08:46:54 Spade Log
10/21/05 08:47:14 whois net-integration.net
.net is a domain of Network services
Searches for .net can be run at http://www.crsnic.net/
whois -h whois.crsnic.net net-integration.net ...
Redirecting to TUCOWS INC.
whois -h whois.opensrs.net net-integration.net ...
Registrant:
Net-Integration. LLC
P.O. Box 348
Ludlow, MA 01056
US
Domain name: NET-INTEGRATION.NET
Administrative Contact:
Rashad, Ahmad T. ni-admin@charter.net
P.O. Box 348
Ludlow, MA 01056
US
+1.4133030338
Technical Contact:
Rashad, Ahmad T. ni-admin@charter.net
P.O. Box 348
Ludlow, MA 01056
US
+1.4133030338
Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 21-Oct-2005.
Record expires on 30-Oct-2006.
Record created on 30-Oct-2000.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ANRHOST.COM 209.59.180.229
NS2.ANRHOST.COM 209.59.180.230
EDIT: Are you starting to get tired of being wrong? I'm certainly getting tired of pointing it out.