is Spybot good idea, with Vista & Norton 2009 installed ?

[lewis90]

Hi Forum,

I just wanted to ask; if you could please tell me, if I should install
Spybot S & D, if I have a Windows Vista system, and have Norton 2009
installed ? ie would it be a good idea, if I had both Norton 2009,
and SpybotS&D installed ? Would they "clash" with each other ?

If it is a good idea, why so ?
Would Norton 2009, not be sufficient ?
Would they be "complementary" ?

[Matt]

Hi lewis90,

you are talking about "Norton 2009" all the time.

Please be more specific.... Norton Antivirus or Norton Internet Security or what do you have installed onto your computer? :)

[lewis90]

Sorry, I should've double checked.

I have "Norton Internet Security".

[Matt]

Hi lewis90,

Norton Internet Securtiy is a good tool, but like almost every tool, it can't detect every Malware that exists... and that's the reason, why I recommend you to install another AntiSpyware tool like Spybot or MBAM.

I think that Norton and Spybot should work fine together, altough I've heard about a problem where Norton blocks Spybot's TeaTimer (TeaTimer is a real-time protection from Spybot, which protects your registry against bad changes from Malware).

Moreover, there are some tools for prevention, which I can suggest you. Feel free to answer if you still have any questions. ;)

Beside Norton, which other security tools do you have installed onto your computer? I would never trust in one software-producer. ;)

[lewis90]

Hi Matt,

Thankyou very much for your suggestions thus far.

I only have Norton Internet Security installed.
Which others, in addition to that, and Spybot,
would you recommend I install ?

[lewis90]

Plus also, I have another machine, which runs Windows 98,
and which has a Kerio firewall, and Spybot installed.

Could I ask, which other possible things I should install on that system ?

[drragostea]

It's up to you, that basically summarizes it. What you install is more like the dependent factor of what your motives are (what you are attempting to achieve). MalwareByte's Anti-Malware supports Windows 2000 Professional through Windows Vista (x86), but it does not support Windows 98 though (legacy PC).

Windows 98 is prone to vulnerabilities and attacks since it is no longer supported by Microsoft as of 2006. My suggestion would be to do a majority of your work (doucments etc.) on your Windows Vista. Even if a anti-spyware product returns with a clean scan, does not necessarily mean your machine is clean. Legacy PCs are handicapped compared to XP and so on.

[lewis90]

Ok.

Well, basically, what I want to achieve, is just to have a clean machine.

So I would be willing to tack on, additional packages.
I actually noticed "Safer Networking Ltd" has additional "projects"/"tools".
For example, would it be good to install those tools ?

They're here:
http://forums.spybot.info/project.php

So you'd recommend I install that Malware one, in addition to Norton Internet Security, and Spybot ?

[Matt]

Hi lewis90,

You can use the following two security programs as "on-demand-scanners"

RootAlyzer (http://forums.spybot.info/downloads.php?id=8)(Download)
and
Spybot-Search&Destroy (http://www.safer-networking.org/en/ownmirrors1/index.html)(Download).

Moreover, if Norton should really block Spyot's TeaTimer, you can dis-able the TeaTimer and use Spybot as an on-demand-scanner, like Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware which you can download from here (http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php).

Here is a tool for prevention, which you can install onto your computer if you like:

SpywareBlaster (http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html)

SpywareBlaster is a passive protection (immunization). It blocks Malware, which can be installed from different internet sites or which can infect Internet Explorer or Firefox. Once it is installed onto your computer, it won't need any RAM. ;)

Furthermore, if you have questions about Spybot installation, please feel free to answer. We will help you as effectively as possible. :bigthumb:

[drragostea]

For example, would it be good to install those tools ?
If you know how it works then by all means do so.
On a side note, some of those tools are diagnostic tools and file analyzers (doesn't fit on the defense/security side).

[lewis90]

[1.]
Re. these 2 programs:

http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php


Sorry, I don't mean to be a pain in the butt, but, could I just ask,
they would genuinely be useful to someone who has
[a.] Norton Internet Security
[b.] Spybot S&D
[c.] Rootalyzer

?
ie they would be able to detect things that the above 3 wouldn't ?

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[2.]
these 2 programs don't carry any malicious software of their own ?

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Sorry I'm just trying to be sure, it would actually be beneficial to download these. I'm sure they probably would be, as you've recommended them.
I'm just double checking I guess.

[drragostea]

1. Javacool is a prevention software not a detection software.
MalwareBytes detect what they detect, I can't say one is better than the other, they all have their strengths. MBAM can detect something that Norton or Spybot did not detect and vice versa.
2. Nope, I don't see why we would be recommending malicious bundles to users.

[Matt]

Hi lewis90,



ie they would be able to detect things that the above 3 wouldn't ?

Yes. But as drragostea already said, SpywareBlaster is a prevention tool. I can give you an example of my own:

I've desinfected an computer from a friend; he had lots of Malware on it. I used Avira's AntiVir, A-Squared, Spybot and Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware. Some files were still strange in my eyes, so I ran SuperAntiSpyware and SpywareTerminator as well, which found 2 trojans...
Finally, I check with two special tools, but that's not important for you, which found some bad entries, although I've scanned the computer with these 6 named-tools before. ;)

After all that, a clean HijackThis logfile comes out. :D:

Like I said before... I would never trust in only one software-producer... :rolleyes: But in the end, it's your decision... ;)

[lewis90]

Thanks guys.
I really appreciate your help.

I'll go ahead and install those.