Does Windows 7 RC install on a blank drive?

drragostea

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Windows 7> Windows XP. Simple.
Anyways, I would like some advice on this question. I plan to reformat my HD, but the catch is that it is with DBAN's Nuke and Boot. Which literally erases everything. Will Windows 7's .iso (burnt to a disc) run after I restart my PC after running a DBAN sweep?

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If you're talking about a Windows 7 RTM installation disk, yes it will.

However, if you have purchased an upgrade copy it will require some sort of indication that a previous Windows operating system was installed at some point, though there's usually a way to do this that doesn't require it to be present now.

I've only installed from a full retail version installation, so I'm not sure how Win 7 determines this, though some of the older OS versions required you to insert the previous versions disk as proof.

Bitman
 
Thanks bitman and tashi. I'm convinced now about not to install the RC. Mainly because in five months, it's going to shut down :red:. But if the RTM installs fine on a blank drive, then the RC does not work?

bitman, I'm not quite sure by what you mean when you said "upgrade copy". Did you mean Vista>Windows 7 RTM?
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What would the screen look like after you wipe the drive with DBAN and restart (assuming there is nothing in the CD drive, so it won't be reading anything)? A blank screen? Or a message in a MS-DOS format that tells you that the drive is blank? :eek:
 
See the pricing for the various versions at the Microsoft Store. Note that the initial page is all Upgrade versions which require that the PC originally have another Windows OS that's approved for an upgrade.

There's also a note on the same page stating: "Microsoft designed Windows 7 Upgrade media for Windows Vista. Customers with Windows XP can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions but must back up their files, clean install, and then reinstall their applications. "

http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-Windows-7/category/102

There's also a link to View Windows 7 Full Versions that simply toggles the Upgrade/Full version pricing on the same screen, since the price is the only real difference. As I mentioned though, I don't know what 'proof' of a previous license Microsoft is requiring, since I haven't worked with an Upgrade copy, only Full install from scratch versions of RC and RTM.

The exact message given by a PC when no operating system is installed varies since it's specific to that computer's BIOS, but it's typically something like "No operating system" or Missing operating system".

Bitman
 
drragostea...

Did you pre-order windows 7? I did when they had the special offer where it was only $50 when you pre-ordered. Can't wait for my october copy haha. Anyways, ya you only have 5 months, but you can install it alongside xp or vista just to have a operating system to mess with, try it out, etc. Anyways, I hope you can get it. It really is that good. And when it does that shutdown thing cause the time ends up, it only does it every 2 hours. So its not completely worthless. You can just turn it on again later haha. But ya, install it alongside something if you want. Main OS obviously would not be good choice, but ya. Let me know what you do!
 
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And when it does that shutdown thing cause the time ends up, it only does it every 2 hours. So its not completely worthless. You can just turn it on again later haha.

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Microsoft is actually saving you money on your electricity bill. I'd imagine that most people after having their pc's switch off every two hours wouldn't want to be near the damned thing. Of course, any savings would quickly disappear if you decided to go watch some TV instead. ;)
 
:sad: I don't want to pre-order a copy because the RTM version will not suffice with my current hardware. I just plan to dump my old PC and purchase a brand new desktop. Preferably a DELL or HP. I like their towers :clown:.

It's been six years since I (rather my family) bought our first desktop (Windows XP) in 2003, and I've found a perfectly good reason to upgrade because not only is it Windows 7, good hardware and equipment is cheap these days.

Thanks guys.
 
And when it does that shutdown thing cause the time ends up, it only does it every 2 hours. So its not completely worthless. You can just turn it on again later haha.
Ugh. :p:

:sad: I don't want to pre-order a copy because the I just plan to dump my old PC and purchase a brand new desktop.

drragostea I think you will like Windows 7. Good luck, hope you are enjoying that new PC soon. :bigthumb:
 
laogh out loud (lol)

lol..its the tavern so i can use my internet speak. hehe. Anyways, glad my response was so well received ha. :p:

Ya, tashi is right, you will def. like windows 7. I feel weird cause i like freakin love it. First time i have liked an os since xp. So far xp and 7 have been the only os Microsoft has made that i actually enjoy using.
 
Although I recommend those who are still on XP to upgrade to Windows 7 when considering to buy new hardware, to those on Vista my advice would be to stay put if you are already happy with your system. Even with welcome improvements and discount prices, I don't think spending £50 for an upgrade is justified if you are happy as is. Besides, many of the new features introduced in 7 can be replicated using freeware utilities (areosnap for window snapping, wallpaper juggler for wallpaper switching, to name a few). If people really want that Windows 7 feel, you can even add a realistic theme to complete your Windows 7 makeover all for free.
 
drragostea,

As a follow-up to my earlier posts, I've seen a thread in one of the Windows 7 forums where others discussed the question of what is required to install an upgrade copy of Windows 7.

Though either Windows XP or Vista are considered a 'legal' upgrade, you can only follow some very specific paths (e.g. 32-bit to 32-bit, etc.), so making this work can get messy. Since you also can't really 'upgrade' Windows XP, but must instead install in place of it, most scenarios are really a fresh install anyway.

The big issue though is that you may not be able to upgrade on a clean formatted disk as we thought. Though one person thought you could insert a CD containing the original operating system virtually everyone else believes that the previous operating system must be installed and activated on the drive for the upgrade to work.

If this is the case, then a Full copy for a fresh install is what you'd prefer, since this shouldn't care if an earlier OS exists or not and would simply wipe it out if it did anyway.

honda12, though I hear what you're saying about the seemingly minor differences between Windows Vista and 7, this is primarily true only for highly technical users. Since some of the improvements in Windows 7 include both performance and usability enhancements like easier WiFi, Printing and other management along with significant improvements in both security and interconnection between systems, these can't really effectively be replaced by 'patching' an earlier OS.

Though I agree that not everyone will benefit from upgrading Vista, those whose existing equipment will support Windows 7 and who aren't normally technically knowledgable will likely find a standard set of Windows 7 systems much easier to manage and support than a mixed bag of different OS versions, no matter how close they might seem to us.

The other potential gain is that when combined with the new Microsoft Security Essentials anti-malware product that Microsoft is now providing for free, Windows 7 is really quite well secured and will automatically update both definitions and the program itself at no cost to the consumer (home) user. This also perfectly complements the included Internet Explorer 8, which includes the SmartScreen Filter technology I've mentioned here before which also performs both Phishing and Malware protection within the browser itself and has been shown in independent testing to compete favorably as some of the best browser protection in the industry.

So all-in-all, I believe that most of the non-technical among us would be far better off with Windows 7 than with anything previous, though those with a deeper technical background may not find it necessary to make a change.

Bitman
 
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