Hi Katana,

Everything seems OK nothing shows up on any scans,what a relief ! As for WINPATROL it was saying something about Winlogin Userinit userinit.exe should not figure in my startup. Also if you stop something from running in the startup and it still shows up in active tasks "not had that problem yet" it may be a malicious program.... I have a little more reading to do.I think I need a second computer to experiment on - it would be so much easier to try something out on. I really appreciate the help you have given ! You guys are GREAT !