Yes, detect NIS completely!
Yes, but detect only some harmless files to wake up people.
No, please waste our donations to go through legal channels, instead of using them to fight malware.
None of the above.
i think you're going overboard on this. Symantec does not act nobly because it is receiving terrible reviews in the forums: all of the gurus advocate against its use, for many reasons (my oem's configuration came with a 12 month subscription to norton 2007 antivirus - and i still ripped it out and replaced it because it is not vista compatible and was wreaking havoc with onecare and vista security center), while spybot is receiving rave reviews - my oem, eg, accolades you.
btw, install a spell check because i'm a terrible typist. and what do you coinsider a reasonable donation - keeping in kind that the powers-that-be keep me in poverty. when are you getting married to the most wonderful girl on earth?
Fool On The Hill
Intel DG965RY motherboard
Intel E6400 processor
232 GB RAM
Vista 32-bit Home Premium
I also agree with Terminator. Too much legal repercussions for detecting. However we could use the forum to "advise" members to try programs that don't kill their computer(s), such as zonealarm or avg's stuff. After all, by flagging safernetworking in their program Symantec are advising their users to delete spybot s&d. Tit for Tat.
Reported here:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/4938c170-058...b5df10621.html
Symantec is soooooo bad that their only hope is to drive everyone else out of the market.
Speaking of folk that just hire lawyers instead of write good code - I joined this form today because I am so upset with what I read about oska not wanting their product detected even if it was installed without the permission of the owner of the computer.
I put together a little letter to send to their support people
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RE: Trojans and or spyware installing your product.
Please be aware that unwanted software, especially on systems used by children, is a real problem. There are many ways to keep ones system clean and proper for children ages 6 to 14. Some of these are spyware detection and removal programs.
It would be to your companies advantage to co-operate with the vendors of such software instead of threatening them. There are very strict laws in the US and I believe England and Germany about children and off color material or material parents have not approved of being placed on children's computers. If it can be proven that your company has hampered detection of unauthorized installs of its software, it very well could leave your company open to the legal liability of this material being on the child's system without parental consent. I believe there are prison sentences in England and Germany for these things while in the US people just sue for millions of dollars.
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Perhaps others of you could email them something also
supportAToska.com
gayle
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We are Murphy's children
If it can go wrong it will
Other's cups runnith over
Ours will always spill
--> http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=2897 <--
"Published: 2007-05-31,
Last Updated: 2007-05-31 19:09:25 UTC"
"We have received a couple of reports that Symantec Antivirus triggers on the file 'blindman.exe', part of the SpyBot Search & Destroy package. Apparently only the file included with version 1.3 was detected as a trojan, not the one included with the more recent version 1.4
Symantec has confirmed this issue occurred in the 05/30/2007 rev.020 Intelligence Update and LiveUpdate definitions. They've made available Rapid Release definition build 69173 (extended version 05/30/2007 rev. 035) to resolve the issue. LiveUpdate definitions that correct the issue were also published, version 90530ao (Sequence number: 69179; extended version 05/30/2007 rev.041)."
What a feeling... :D
Hi,
sorry for my English, I'm a French guy but I'll do my best
Well, we are on a SB forum discussing about Symantec legitimacy and efficiency of its products. Perhaps Symantec forum do the same :/
I'm using Spybot S&D and Norton AV on my main PC and NIS on other computers and I never got all these problems people report. Perhaps I'm lucky. I also encoutered reliable and really skilled consultants who consider Symantec products are valuable for customers.
I recommend to my friend both of Spybot and Symantec products and I'll never encountered any problem after installation. I admit that Symantec products installation can be tricky and/or touchy but I always succeeded in installations working fine in the long term.
I also recommend users of Spybot products I install to donate and they do as they are happy with their fine working installation.
Well, I hope Symantec will become wise and responsible to solve its incompatibility with Spybot S&D by improving its product rather than libelling Spybot.
I vote for doing anything else than quarelling with each other. But I have some doublt about this when I consider that this argument is open since a so long time (september 2006)
Best regards to all, whatever you think about Symantec products!
Last edited by Peter Pan; 2007-06-01 at 13:49. Reason: I forgot to write a title!
I also run spybot and nortons on my system and have no problems with either. If you follow the instruction with both programs for installing, you have a good working machine.
On the above post, Norons did find and correct the problem in a timely manner. I have had occassion where both ad-aware and spybot found files during the scan that were not spyware. It took me at least 30 seconds to fix the problem, but some of you take 30 minutes to complain about it and write messages.
Any two similar programs of any type will sooner or later run into conflicts - there are just too many possibilities. How many of you have NEVER had your system freeze, lock up completely, or crash. If someone can prove to me that this is being done on purpose, I'll be first in line to clobber somone.
I'm not knocking anyone - I'm happy with all of them.
Lynn
I have to admit that I baled on NIS years ago in favor of Spybot, Spybot is such a good product, along with the other goodies like the file analyser and that. I baled on Microsoft not long ago - I switched to UBUNTU - very stable and very good. I hope that Spybot can craft some tools to work with linux, although I don't feel, (although I'm not absolutely sure) that I don't have much spyware on this computer at all (that is why I need a linux spybot to test!!) :-) I should try it with WINE - I'll post back here with results!!
If there are any spybot developers reading this, a linux version would be a good thing - it will take over Microsoft - resistance is futile, Microsoft will be assimilated! :-)
John
It works with WINE, but will only check the redundant files on my leftover windows NTFS-3G partition that I have yet to delete. but of course when I do that, SpybotSD will go with it (athough I still have it on numorous backups and that) I wonder if I copy it to /usr/bin/spybot it will work there??!!