It is settled SBv1.5 does not work for me!

[bitman]

caterwaul,

Windows 98 in general and 98SE specifically had quite a few known issues with shutdown, to the point that tutorials were written to help resolve them:

WINDOWS SHUTDOWN & RESTART CENTER
WINDOWS 98 SECOND EDITION

That's not to say that Spybot S&D Teatimer isn't contributing in your case, it's just that aggravating such an inherently unstable OS is quite easy, especially when there is as little RAM available as in your case.

I'm running a PII 400 myself, but with 512MB of RAM and a Windows 2000 Professional OS. Other than a very slow startup of the OS, AV and Teatimer, it's the most stable PC I've ever had and teatimer shuts down fine along with the entire OS.

I'd tend towards a lack of resources in your case, since memory utilization grows in every version of Spybot S&D, especially in the 1.6 version of Teatimer which increased by several times on my own PC.

What kind of motherboard and RAM does your PC use? Have you looked into the cost of increasing this to get by a little better until you can upgrade your PC?

Bitman

 

[wyrmrider]

great link bitman
that's sorta where I was heading
agree on the memory
he has an easy work around for himself personally

 

[GreenEyedLady]

You could check with GreenEyedLady.

From her post (post #9) in the following thread it is clear she is using Spybot 1.5.2 but not really clear if she is/isn't using TeaTimer:

Two questions:

1. Are you or ANYONE in this forum using WIN98SE+TEATIMER RUNNING on SB1.5.2 and if so do you have any problem SHUTTING DOWN?

2. Was SB1.5.2 bench tested using WIN98SE+TEATIMER RUNNING+SHUTDOWN? (this question would be for anyone with extensive knowledge of SB1.5.2)

Yes, I do use TeaTimer, with no shutdown issues, I do not need to stop it first either. (I also have SDHelper, though I don't notice this so much since I browse with SeaMonkey rather than IE.) What exactly do you mean by "bench tested"?

In my case WIN98SE, 400mhz, PentiumII would appear to be no problem based on what you have posted with one exception.... my 96 RAM which is a far cry from your 448 RAM.

My CPU is even more limited than yours, I have only a 380MHz K6-3. But your 96MB RAM sounds rather harsh! I have 256MB here, any chance you could max up your slots now that memory has gotten so cheap? With so little RAM you likely need much more than the rule-of-thumb memory doubling for your swap space, have you given it at least a gig? Preferably dedicated so as to always be free, unfragmented and contiguous. (Mine has an entire dedicated 8GB partition available, not that it uses that much but I don't want to run out. I'd rather increase my RAM further but already have all the mobo will take.)

Possibly on shutdown SpyBot1.5 is trying to access code no longer available since I have a memory manager that clears cache.

Now there's another likely culprit... at best these things typically sweep stuff into swap, making it even more important to have enough space available! By any chance is this one of those older ones leftover from Win95 that should have been uninstalled during a w98 upgrade, some of them are not compatible with later VXDs? Have you tried disabling it? I don't mean just not calling for an on demand sweep, I mean several clean boots completely without it even in startup.

Are there any remnants of Norton products on your system? I found this to be a FAR bigger resource hog than any version of Spybot, including 1.6 that I just installed today. (Which does not give me your problem of calling the updater from within the app vs teatimer menu either.) Even worse, they tend to have memory leaks, and I know NIS2003 did not play nice with a lot of things. It would especially target teatimer, but also kill other apps too. Uninstalling that made a lot of mystery memory problems just magically disappear.