Solution to fix the pop-ups in TeaTimer
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Well, I am finally trying again after a year and a half to install 1.4. This time I found these fixes in the forum. Thanks to you who took the time to share these fixes. I will try them soon. If they do not work, I will be posting again. To those who poo on the critics of this bug: how many man hours have been wasted since June 2005 answering emails about this bug? How many man hours have been wasted searching forums for a fix? How many man hours were wasted finding and sharing those fixes? How many man hours were wasted downloading software that most people ultimately removed because of this bug? How much bandwidth (i.e., money) was wasted on the downloads for the fixes? Both Safer Networking and all of us have wasted time on this "freeware" bug for 21 months. Time is money. ALWAYS. I wasted several hours myself after I first installed this and found only an explanation of why the bug found its way into the release. The "fix" supplied by Safer Networking might have been fine for me, but others that use the two PCs I own would be at a loss. So I stuck with 1.3. Luckily, I still had a copy of the EXE on a disc. I only upgrade now because apparently that is the only way to stop getting false positives in Spybot. Who knows what real positives are not showing because of this? BTW, 21 months is just about the longest run of any "point" release I've heard of, even for freeware. I feel for the developers, but it seems they were using this software when they developed 1.3, so I would think the problem is just as much theirs as it is Delphi's. In their News from June 2005, they write as if to suggest that a new release is soon to follow. It is March 2007. I think this is more about the stubbornness of the developer than anything else. It is a big deal. If all freeware were developed with the same attitude in thinking, none would be worth using. Developers have a responsibility to the end user once making a product available to the public. You won't find it any agreement, but it is there. It is in every update that some poor soul slaves over to fix an issue on 4% of all the PCs that use that software. They do it for free. It's a matter of pride in one's own work. The difference between some and others is that the responsible developer is proud without being stubborn. A responsible developer would have integrated a fix soon after the fixes were posted to the forum. Freeware does not excuse developers from that responsibility to the public (I'm sure tens if not hundreds of millions of people use this software). I now return the soapbox to the corner and to my desk to hopefully resume more productive pursuits (been looking for some HQ Josie Maran pics).
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Well, I am finally trying again after a year and a half to install 1.4. This time I found these fixes in the forum. Thanks to you who took the time to share these fixes. I will try them soon. If they do not work, I will be posting again. To those who poo on the critics of this bug: how many man hours have been wasted since June 2005 answering emails about this bug? How many man hours have been wasted searching forums for a fix? How many man hours were wasted finding and sharing those fixes? How many man hours were wasted downloading software that most people ultimately removed because of this bug? How much bandwidth (i.e., money) was wasted on the downloads for the fixes? Both Safer Networking and all of us have wasted time on this "freeware" bug for 21 months. Time is money. ALWAYS. I wasted several hours myself after I first installed this and found only an explanation of why the bug found its way into the release. The "fix" supplied by Safer Networking might have been fine for me, but others that use the two PCs I own would be at a loss. So I stuck with 1.3. Luckily, I still had a copy of the EXE on a disc. I only upgrade now because apparently that is the only way to stop getting false positives in Spybot. Who knows what real positives are not showing because of this? BTW, 21 months is just about the longest run of any "point" release I've heard of, even for freeware. I feel for the developers, but it seems they were using this software when they developed 1.3, so I would think the problem is just as much theirs as it is Delphi's. In their News from June 2005, they write as if to suggest that a new release is soon to follow. It is March 2007. I think this is more about the stubbornness of the developer than anything else. It is a big deal. If all freeware were developed with the same attitude in thinking, none would be worth using. Developers have a responsibility to the end user once making a product available to the public. You won't find it any agreement, but it is there. It is in every update that some poor soul slaves over to fix an issue on 4% of all the PCs that use that software. They do it for free. It's a matter of pride in one's own work. The difference between some and others is that the responsible developer is proud without being stubborn. A responsible developer would have integrated a fix soon after the fixes were posted to the forum. Freeware does not excuse developers from that responsibility to the public (I'm sure tens if not hundreds of millions of people use this software). I now return the soapbox to the corner and to my desk to hopefully resume more productive pursuits (been looking for some HQ Josie Maran pics).
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There are fixes posted in this thread,but there's also a beta available now.You can see more about it in this post here(about halfway down):
http://forums.spybot.info/showpost.php?p=23629&postcount=2
If you're okay with trying a beta,you could have a look.
http://forums.spybot.info/showpost.php?p=23629&postcount=2
If you're okay with trying a beta,you could have a look.
Finally
I run 1024x768 resolution (96 DPI) on a 19" CRT. The GUI Patch shows the buttons, but cuts off the bottom. Purely a cosmetic complaint. Probably designed for 1280x1024 res. Didn't try ResHack. Anyway, I checked here again and found Zenobia's response. Good thing I posted. Now I know about the beta for Tea Timer 1.5, which shows the box perfectly, now. Problem finally solved. I had to manually install "teatimer1506-setup.exe" from the Spybot - Search & Destroy\Updates folder, though. The auto update failed but didn't report it had failed. Why is this one still in beta? I see no obvious bugs in this one, unlike 1.4, which still has the obvious. Thanks Zenobia. I appreciate the heads up. A lot learned. Best I can tell the beta has been around since December. Maybe if I looked at page 20 or so of this thread, I would have seen something about it.: They need to have a beta page (listed in the main menu). Save a lot of time and effort all around.
I run 1024x768 resolution (96 DPI) on a 19" CRT. The GUI Patch shows the buttons, but cuts off the bottom. Purely a cosmetic complaint. Probably designed for 1280x1024 res. Didn't try ResHack. Anyway, I checked here again and found Zenobia's response. Good thing I posted. Now I know about the beta for Tea Timer 1.5, which shows the box perfectly, now. Problem finally solved. I had to manually install "teatimer1506-setup.exe" from the Spybot - Search & Destroy\Updates folder, though. The auto update failed but didn't report it had failed. Why is this one still in beta? I see no obvious bugs in this one, unlike 1.4, which still has the obvious. Thanks Zenobia. I appreciate the heads up. A lot learned. Best I can tell the beta has been around since December. Maybe if I looked at page 20 or so of this thread, I would have seen something about it.
: They need to have a beta page (listed in the main menu). Save a lot of time and effort all around.StealthKitten
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Works beautifully thank you!
Works beautifully thank you!
I posted here sometime last summer about the problem I was having with Tea Timer or at least not being able to see which box to click on when the option comes up asking if I will accept or deny something. I was unable to correct the problem and due to many other responsibilities, I didn't have time to continue trying.
It's been so long I can't remember now how to navigate the board here to find my earlier posts and in fact, it took awhile to find a box where I could type. I hope this is the correct place since I see a box above with a place for Title. I hope I'm not creating a new thread.
Anyway, recently, I had to make a choice about accepting something and apparently, with my trying to guess, clicked on the Deny box. Since that time it's been impossible for me to do anything with Spybot and I can't even get the updates now because all the little boxes start stacking up on the right side of the screen blocking anything. The only way I could get rid of the boxes was to use Control-Alternate-Delete.
I had tried to quit using the Advanced Mode (since it was more advanced than me) and although I clicked on Default, it goes back to Advanced.
My husband suggested I just get rid of the Spybot version I have been running and upload a fresh one. If I do this should I go to the Control Panel to delete the one I've been running and then just start from scratch? Or should I get a new one first and then delete the old one? And I should probably just stick with the Default Mode or Advanced without Tea Timer since I really am not sure how to work with it.
Thanks for any help.
It's been so long I can't remember now how to navigate the board here to find my earlier posts and in fact, it took awhile to find a box where I could type. I hope this is the correct place since I see a box above with a place for Title. I hope I'm not creating a new thread.
Anyway, recently, I had to make a choice about accepting something and apparently, with my trying to guess, clicked on the Deny box. Since that time it's been impossible for me to do anything with Spybot and I can't even get the updates now because all the little boxes start stacking up on the right side of the screen blocking anything. The only way I could get rid of the boxes was to use Control-Alternate-Delete.
I had tried to quit using the Advanced Mode (since it was more advanced than me) and although I clicked on Default, it goes back to Advanced.
My husband suggested I just get rid of the Spybot version I have been running and upload a fresh one. If I do this should I go to the Control Panel to delete the one I've been running and then just start from scratch? Or should I get a new one first and then delete the old one? And I should probably just stick with the Default Mode or Advanced without Tea Timer since I really am not sure how to work with it.
Thanks for any help.
md usa spybot fan
Spybot Advisor Team [Retired]
drafm:
If you just want to stop using TeaTimer without uninstalling, reinstalling, etc.:
Exit TeaTimer:
If you just want to stop using TeaTimer without uninstalling, reinstalling, etc.:
Exit TeaTimer:
- Right click Spybot's TeaTimer System Tray Icon (Spybot-SD Resident).
- Click Exit Spybot-S&D Resident.
- Go into Spybot > Mode > Advanced Mode > Tools > Resident.
- Uncheck (if checked) the following:
- Resident "TeaTimer" (Protection of over-all system settings) Active.
md usa spybot fan, thank you for the prompt reply.
This morning I had a notice that overnight there was a security update with the computer having to be restarted and there was a Spybot icon showing in my bottom tray. I could not get rid of it. (I don't know if the update was Spybot or what.) Right clicking did nothing; it wouldn't come up out of the tray or anything but then finally, after several tries when it did allow me to click Close, a large box came up: [ System settings protector - - You chose to end the non responsive program, System settings protector. The program is not responding. ] It also had a message that I could report the problem to Microsoft. This has happened before and apparently, it must have to do with some setting that isn't correct.
This happened before I got my mail and noticed the reply from md usa spybot fan. There is not now, nor has there been, a spybot icon showing in the tray (except on the incidents as this morning.) By the way, this was at the left side of the tray, not at right where all my other little icons are showing.
I did go to the Start Menu and brought up the list of things to Always Show-Always Hide-Hide when inactive and spybot is listed as Hide when inactive. However, it's down in the bottom list under Past Items and I don't know how to move it up under the Current Items list so I can follow the instructions given.
The one thing that was clicked by mistake was when I had to update Windows Defender a few wks. ago. Because I couldn't remember just where to click on the Spybot check-box, I ended up with having to now manually allow or deny all the mail every time. I can't see any way to change it back as it was before, just silently working in the background, I guess it would be called.
I'm not sure if I've explained all this properly and hope you can understand alright.
Thanks!
This morning I had a notice that overnight there was a security update with the computer having to be restarted and there was a Spybot icon showing in my bottom tray. I could not get rid of it. (I don't know if the update was Spybot or what.) Right clicking did nothing; it wouldn't come up out of the tray or anything but then finally, after several tries when it did allow me to click Close, a large box came up: [ System settings protector - - You chose to end the non responsive program, System settings protector. The program is not responding. ] It also had a message that I could report the problem to Microsoft. This has happened before and apparently, it must have to do with some setting that isn't correct.
This happened before I got my mail and noticed the reply from md usa spybot fan. There is not now, nor has there been, a spybot icon showing in the tray (except on the incidents as this morning.) By the way, this was at the left side of the tray, not at right where all my other little icons are showing.
I did go to the Start Menu and brought up the list of things to Always Show-Always Hide-Hide when inactive and spybot is listed as Hide when inactive. However, it's down in the bottom list under Past Items and I don't know how to move it up under the Current Items list so I can follow the instructions given.
The one thing that was clicked by mistake was when I had to update Windows Defender a few wks. ago. Because I couldn't remember just where to click on the Spybot check-box, I ended up with having to now manually allow or deny all the mail every time. I can't see any way to change it back as it was before, just silently working in the background, I guess it would be called.
I'm not sure if I've explained all this properly and hope you can understand alright.
Thanks!
md usa spybot fan
Spybot Advisor Team [Retired]
drafm:
If you had a button (not an icon) labeled "Spybot – Search & Destroy" to the right of "Start" and to the left of the Notification area of the Taskbar with the TeaTimer symbol on it (a padlock on top of a document) as opposed to the button labeled "Spybot – Search & Destroy" with the SpybotSD.exe symbol on it (a magnifying glass on top of a document) in the Taskbar, it was most likely because there was an outstanding TeaTimer dialog that had to be answered. If you clicked (left) on the button it should have brought up the TeaTimer dialog (actually labeled "Spybot – Search & Destroy") that required answering.
Even if you have and outstanding TeaTimer dialog, it appears that you should be able to right click on Spybot's TeaTimer System Tray Icon (in the Notification area (right) of the Taskbar), Click "Exit ...", etc., etc. so that you can stop using TeaTimer.
If you had a button (not an icon) labeled "Spybot – Search & Destroy" to the right of "Start" and to the left of the Notification area of the Taskbar with the TeaTimer symbol on it (a padlock on top of a document) as opposed to the button labeled "Spybot – Search & Destroy" with the SpybotSD.exe symbol on it (a magnifying glass on top of a document) in the Taskbar, it was most likely because there was an outstanding TeaTimer dialog that had to be answered. If you clicked (left) on the button it should have brought up the TeaTimer dialog (actually labeled "Spybot – Search & Destroy") that required answering.
Even if you have and outstanding TeaTimer dialog, it appears that you should be able to right click on Spybot's TeaTimer System Tray Icon (in the Notification area (right) of the Taskbar), Click "Exit ...", etc., etc. so that you can stop using TeaTimer.
Hello again,
I realize this makes me appear to be totally computer illiterate but I'm really not sure how to answer your post since I honestly don't remember if what I saw was an icon or button and I haven't any idea what was showing (any symbols, etc.) on it since it wouldn't come up at all. Clicking with the left mouse button did nothing and the right one, although it had the option of opening or exit (something like that) did NOT function. In other words, nothing happened and I had no way to do anything with it except try to get rid of it.
Also, there still isn't any icon anywhere in the taskbar. Whenever I run Spybot, I just click on it on my desktop. I'm not sure exactly what you mean about TeaTimer dialog, but I do know that due to not being able to read that box properly, I clicked on the wrong answer for a choice.
I really feel it would probably be easier for me to just start with a fresh version and hopefully, not have the same problem I've had with this one. I feel this has become too complicated for me to try to fix or work around.
What would be the best way to do this? Should I go to the Control Panel and delete it? If so, should I then put spybot.net or spybot.com into the bar at top to download a new one? When I Googled, both are saying they are authentic and I want to be sure I'm on the proper site.
Thank you.....
I realize this makes me appear to be totally computer illiterate but I'm really not sure how to answer your post since I honestly don't remember if what I saw was an icon or button and I haven't any idea what was showing (any symbols, etc.) on it since it wouldn't come up at all. Clicking with the left mouse button did nothing and the right one, although it had the option of opening or exit (something like that) did NOT function. In other words, nothing happened and I had no way to do anything with it except try to get rid of it.
Also, there still isn't any icon anywhere in the taskbar. Whenever I run Spybot, I just click on it on my desktop. I'm not sure exactly what you mean about TeaTimer dialog, but I do know that due to not being able to read that box properly, I clicked on the wrong answer for a choice.
I really feel it would probably be easier for me to just start with a fresh version and hopefully, not have the same problem I've had with this one. I feel this has become too complicated for me to try to fix or work around.
What would be the best way to do this? Should I go to the Control Panel and delete it? If so, should I then put spybot.net or spybot.com into the bar at top to download a new one? When I Googled, both are saying they are authentic and I want to be sure I'm on the proper site.
Thank you.....
Hello,md usa spybot fan will be away for a couple days.
In the area down by your clock,in amongst the little icons there,is there an Teatimer icon there?There should be an arrow,to the immediate left of the icons down by your clock,if you click that it will show hidden items,is the Teatimer icon there?Should look like this:
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3697/teatimerzi4.jpg
If you rightclick that,you should be able to exit Teatimer.
Then,you should be able to do this:
http://www.russelltexas.com/malware/teatimer.htm
The above should be easier than uninstalling/reinstalling.But,if you prefer to uninstall/reinstall,then you could go to Add/Remove programs to uninstall Spybot.
And if you click the link below,it will take you to the page where you can download a new Spybot:
http://www.spybot.info/en/mirrors/index.html
In the area down by your clock,in amongst the little icons there,is there an Teatimer icon there?There should be an arrow,to the immediate left of the icons down by your clock,if you click that it will show hidden items,is the Teatimer icon there?Should look like this:
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3697/teatimerzi4.jpg
If you rightclick that,you should be able to exit Teatimer.
Then,you should be able to do this:
This page has screenshots,which might help you do the above.A couple things would be different,though,you do not need to uncheck sdhelper,and if you've exited Teatimer you will not get the Allow change prompt at the end:
http://www.russelltexas.com/malware/teatimer.htm
The above should be easier than uninstalling/reinstalling.But,if you prefer to uninstall/reinstall,then you could go to Add/Remove programs to uninstall Spybot.
And if you click the link below,it will take you to the page where you can download a new Spybot:
http://www.spybot.info/en/mirrors/index.html
P.S. I forgot.
If you did decide to Uninstall/reinstall Spybot,when you reinstall,to avoid using Teatimer,make sure you leave the box shown in the link below with a red box around it unchecked:
http://img.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/spybot13/installadd.gif
If you did decide to Uninstall/reinstall Spybot,when you reinstall,to avoid using Teatimer,make sure you leave the box shown in the link below with a red box around it unchecked:
http://img.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/spybot13/installadd.gif
Hello, Zenobia,
Thank you for the good suggestions with links, which helped. I did decide to try the Spybot > Mode > Advanced Mode > Tools > Resident > to see if that would help. I unchecked the box so we'll see if that helps now.
As I stated in an earlier post, there is no icon in the bottom tray for spybot. However, today, after clicking on your link there was one showing but after I clicked on it, it disappeared again. If I go to Start Menu I can see it under Past Items but cannot manage to get it up to the Current Items. I do have 7 others showing at the right of task bar, such as zone alarm, Picasa, the printer, etc. I don't know why or how spybot decided to hide permanently from the task bar. ;o)
The one question I still have and would like to get fixed is that of the Windows Defender which I posted on 2007-04-04 12:02. When I call up the mail, it still brought up Windows Defender where I had to allow it to succeed. It's become a pain having to do this each time now.
I've tried to find out where or how to make the change which happened when I clicked Deny by accident but I cannot. Please help me if possible.
Thank you again.
Thank you for the good suggestions with links, which helped. I did decide to try the Spybot > Mode > Advanced Mode > Tools > Resident > to see if that would help. I unchecked the box so we'll see if that helps now.
As I stated in an earlier post, there is no icon in the bottom tray for spybot. However, today, after clicking on your link there was one showing but after I clicked on it, it disappeared again. If I go to Start Menu I can see it under Past Items but cannot manage to get it up to the Current Items. I do have 7 others showing at the right of task bar, such as zone alarm, Picasa, the printer, etc. I don't know why or how spybot decided to hide permanently from the task bar. ;o)
The one question I still have and would like to get fixed is that of the Windows Defender which I posted on 2007-04-04 12:02. When I call up the mail, it still brought up Windows Defender where I had to allow it to succeed. It's become a pain having to do this each time now.
I've tried to find out where or how to make the change which happened when I clicked Deny by accident but I cannot. Please help me if possible.
Thank you again.
Hi. 
You're welcome.
I'm a little shaky on the ins and outs of Windows Defender,but I'll try to help if I can.I'm not real clear on what is happening here:
When you check your email,are you being prompted by Windows Defender to Permit or Deny a change?Or are you being prompted by Teatimer to Allow or Deny a change for something,and if so,has this happened since you removed the checkmark beside Spybot > Mode > Advanced Mode > Tools > Resident >Resident "Teatimer"?Any other details you can think of would be helpful,too.
You're welcome.I'm a little shaky on the ins and outs of Windows Defender,but I'll try to help if I can.I'm not real clear on what is happening here:
When you check your email,are you being prompted by Windows Defender to Permit or Deny a change?Or are you being prompted by Teatimer to Allow or Deny a change for something,and if so,has this happened since you removed the checkmark beside Spybot > Mode > Advanced Mode > Tools > Resident >Resident "Teatimer"?Any other details you can think of would be helpful,too.
Hello again, Zenobia,
You asked if I was being prompted by Windows Defender or TeaTimer; it's Windows Defender that comes up for me to accept or deny.
When I click on mail, (Eudora) a small Windows Defender box comes up from the tray telling me changes have been made. I then have to click on that (or the icon if the box disappears) to bring up the large box to "Review changes to computer settings." Below the title are headers with the Publisher - Agent - Checkpoint - Date - Action - Status. Under Action is a drop-down with Permit or Deny and at bottom right are the words Apply Actions, which I click to accept and then click the X at upper right to make the page disappear.
I have gone to the main page of Windows Defender but haven't been able to make any changes or correct this problem. I have looked at the options under Tools > Options and then discovered Software Explorer, where I finally found Eudora AFTER realizing to use another drop-down box which was set for Start-Up Programs. After changing it to Currently Running Programs, I can see two Eudora boxes at the bottom.
At the right it reads, Not yet classified. Some of the other things in the above list read Permitted, and I think that's what the Eudora should be ??? I do remember when I first signed up with Windows Defender, (which had originally been another name I can't remember now) there was a similar problem but I can't remember how we got rid of it.
I apologize for the complication of all this but I also really appreciate all the help.
I wanted to mention how nice it is having the link to this board in an email so I can just click on that to bring me here to the right place.
You are a great group of helpful people!
You asked if I was being prompted by Windows Defender or TeaTimer; it's Windows Defender that comes up for me to accept or deny.
When I click on mail, (Eudora) a small Windows Defender box comes up from the tray telling me changes have been made. I then have to click on that (or the icon if the box disappears) to bring up the large box to "Review changes to computer settings." Below the title are headers with the Publisher - Agent - Checkpoint - Date - Action - Status. Under Action is a drop-down with Permit or Deny and at bottom right are the words Apply Actions, which I click to accept and then click the X at upper right to make the page disappear.
I have gone to the main page of Windows Defender but haven't been able to make any changes or correct this problem. I have looked at the options under Tools > Options and then discovered Software Explorer, where I finally found Eudora AFTER realizing to use another drop-down box which was set for Start-Up Programs. After changing it to Currently Running Programs, I can see two Eudora boxes at the bottom.
At the right it reads, Not yet classified. Some of the other things in the above list read Permitted, and I think that's what the Eudora should be ??? I do remember when I first signed up with Windows Defender, (which had originally been another name I can't remember now) there was a similar problem but I can't remember how we got rid of it.
I apologize for the complication of all this but I also really appreciate all the help.
I wanted to mention how nice it is having the link to this board in an email so I can just click on that to bring me here to the right place.
You are a great group of helpful people!
Whoops, I forgot the rest of your question, below. I'm not sure how you do the Quote post from other people.
""When you check your email,are you being prompted by Windows Defender to Permit or Deny a change?Or are you being prompted by Teatimer to Allow or Deny a change for something,and if so,has this happened since you removed the checkmark beside Spybot > Mode > Advanced Mode > Tools > Resident >Resident "Teatimer"?Any other details you can think of would be helpful,too.""
If I remember correctly, it happened during some kind of upgrade or update and when the teatimer came up with the box for me to accept or deny AND remember, I sat there trying to remember where on the box to click since it was all still illegible. When I clicked what I 'thought' was the right area, I got another message that I would now have to manually allow for the change. < sigh >
I tried and tried to find out where to correct it but I think it was bedtime and by the time I could get back again, much of it had faded from memory. I just know I've been limping along hoping not to see anymore boxes!
Hope this helps a little...
""When you check your email,are you being prompted by Windows Defender to Permit or Deny a change?Or are you being prompted by Teatimer to Allow or Deny a change for something,and if so,has this happened since you removed the checkmark beside Spybot > Mode > Advanced Mode > Tools > Resident >Resident "Teatimer"?Any other details you can think of would be helpful,too.""
If I remember correctly, it happened during some kind of upgrade or update and when the teatimer came up with the box for me to accept or deny AND remember, I sat there trying to remember where on the box to click since it was all still illegible. When I clicked what I 'thought' was the right area, I got another message that I would now have to manually allow for the change. < sigh >
I tried and tried to find out where to correct it but I think it was bedtime and by the time I could get back again, much of it had faded from memory. I just know I've been limping along hoping not to see anymore boxes!
Hope this helps a little...
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