TeaTimer CPU load after startup thoughts

Tt cpu @ 100%

hello,
i'm new to the forum and i've been doing some upgrading to a friend's computer. it's a p2 350 with 1 gb ram and xp pro. i have noticed that tt in sb v160 runs the cpu at 100%. the system goes back to "normal" when i turn tt off.

i have v160 installed on a celeron 2.4ghz 2gb ram and a hp laptop with a 2ghz athlon 64 and 2gb ram both with xp pro and have no problem with the cpu sticking at 100%.

i have read the replies on this thread and have not found a solution. my friend is not very computer savy and i am beginning to think that disabling tt wouldn't be such a bad idea.

i certainly want them to have a good computering experience without having them making decisions about registry changes that they would know nothing about.

am i wrong in my thinking and is there a cure for this malady?
 
129260,

thanks for your feedback. I think we have to watch this behavior to see if it occurs again.
Did you disable the balloon tool tips within Windows? You can check this in the registry:
Code: 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advacned
"EnableBalloonTips"=dword:00000000
This would have the tool tips disabled completely, setting the dword to 1 will reenable the balloon tips (restart of the explorer is required). By default this value is not set.


kdd53,

once the teatimer starts it will scan the running processes, this will cause a cpu load depending on how many processes are present, on an older computer like the p2@350 and WinXP this will take a while.
The current beta of the teatimer will show that it scans with a balloon tip and it will improve on scanning time through caching. This way there will be one long scan for processes but subsequent scans will be quicker.
Download:
TeaTimer-beta-1.6.1.21.zip
 
no i have balloon's enabled.

Because other programs are able to give me notification balloons. such as windows defender. It doesn't do any notification balloons on my laptop ether. Same thing applies. This is weird.......cause i have never seen teatimer give me a notification balloon so far, and other programs are able to give me the notification balloons.......:scratch:

Thanks for the help yodama, feel free to ask more questions. :) Hopefully we can figure this out!
 
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I've attempted to download the beta updates and it was successful.

I heard there was v.1.6.0.31?

My TeaTimer is: v.1.6.1.22

The CPU usage is 0% at the moment, but it was 50% CPU during the few minutes about the installation of TeaTimer beta.

However, what concerns me is that TeaTimer is still using 43MB of memory as compared to 14MB when it was first installed.

Thoughts? :scratch:
 
129260,

please check these registry locations:
Code: 
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Safer Networking Limited\SpybotSnD]
"Path"="C:\\Program Files\\Spybot - Search & Destroy\"
if you installed Spybot S&D to a different directory that path need to be adjusted.

Code: 
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Safer Networking Limited\SpybotSnD\TeaTimer]
"ShowInfoBalloons"=dword:00000001
this is the setting for active balloon tips for the teatimer, this can be switched on (1) an off (0) with the context menu of the teatimer tray icon.


drragostea,

43 MB is normal for Teatimer 1.6 on a Windows XP system, when did you get 14 MB?
 
Yodama said:
129260,

thanks for your feedback. I think we have to watch this behavior to see if it occurs again.
Did you disable the balloon tool tips within Windows? You can check this in the registry:
Code: 
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advacned
"EnableBalloonTips"=dword:00000000
This would have the tool tips disabled completely, setting the dword to 1 will reenable the balloon tips (restart of the explorer is required). By default this value is not set.


kdd53,

once the teatimer starts it will scan the running processes, this will cause a cpu load depending on how many processes are present, on an older computer like the p2@350 and WinXP this will take a while.
The current beta of the teatimer will show that it scans with a balloon tip and it will improve on scanning time through caching. This way there will be one long scan for processes but subsequent scans will be quicker.
Download:
TeaTimer-beta-1.6.1.21.zip
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Dear Yodama,
I have Spybot S&D 1.6.0.30;
my Teatimer situation is the following:
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Is there a way to "improve" the value related to Utilizzo della Memoria (Memory Usage)?
Maybe installing the beta version of Teatimer ?
and with what kind of configuration (what "scanmode")?
Thanks a lot for an answer !!!
Bye bye ! Paolo :red:

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hello gagliaudo,

please apply one of the 2 .reg files attached to this post.
Then restart Teatimer , your memory usage for Teatimer should then be about 43 MB.

Teatimer-conserve_memory.reg
looks like this:
Code: 
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Safer Networking Limited\Tweaks]
"ConserveMemory"=dword:00000001
your current data is most likely "dword:00000000" which makes Teatimer a bit faster but more memory consuming.

Teatimer-scanmode_default.reg
looks like this:
Code: 
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Safer Networking Limited\Tweaks]
"ConserveMemory"=-
this removes the setting for ConserveMemory and restores the default for Teatimer which is actually conserving memory.
 
Yodama said:
hello gagliaudo,

please apply one of the 2 .reg files attached to this post.
Then restart Teatimer , your memory usage for Teatimer should then be about 43 MB.

Teatimer-conserve_memory.reg
looks like this:
Code: 
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Safer Networking Limited\Tweaks]
"ConserveMemory"=dword:00000001
your current data is most likely "dword:00000000" which makes Teatimer a bit faster but more memory consuming.

Teatimer-scanmode_default.reg
looks like this:
Code: 
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Safer Networking Limited\Tweaks]
"ConserveMemory"=-
this removes the setting for ConserveMemory and restores the default for Teatimer which is actually conserving memory.
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Dear Yodama, I have applied the first reg and ... success!!! :2thumb:
Memory Usage 43.320 KB
Thanks a lot !!!
 
Drrago good buddy
Is not your version LATER than the other you mention
did you just download a big file or something to have that large footprint?
Is it still there?
 
drragostea said:
I've attempted to download the beta updates and it was successful.

I heard there was v.1.6.0.31?

My TeaTimer is: v.1.6.1.22

The CPU usage is 0% at the moment, but it was 50% CPU during the few minutes about the installation of TeaTimer beta.

However, what concerns me is that TeaTimer is still using 43MB of memory as compared to 14MB when it was first installed.

Thoughts? :scratch:
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ya weird, my teatimer version is v.1.6.1.21 ?? Do i need to download the beta teatimer from this thread again? Has it been updated since i downloaded it a bit ago? Should i try using the updater within spybot to download the latest beta teatimer?
 
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@Yodama, I am serious. Spybot-Search&Destroy's TeaTimer usage was using 14MB at one time (which I was happy for the improvement). This situation of TeaTimer using 43MB sounds just like the same TeaTimer in v.1.5.2.20. The 14MB memory usage observation took place during the week for Spybot-SD's 1.6 release. TeaTimer rose to 28MB of memory during the first hour of usage.

If TeaTimer's memory usage (despite it's new features) was the same as it's previous version, then the statement about the the reduced memory usage (in my opinion) is false.

Edit: As for 2 hours of usage, I took a look at Task Manager (TeaTimer beta) and it was using 30MB roughly. And this is only for the beta.
 
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My teatimer was using very little ram too. But then I found out that after updating spybot's database and restarting the computer the new updates affected teatimer ram usage. Thats because before updating it was saying 10thousand processes blacklisted but after updating it says 148354 processes blacklisted and this naturally affects teatimer's ram usage.
 
drragostea said:


If TeaTimer's memory usage (despite it's new features) was the same as it's previous version, then the statement about the the reduced memory usage (in my opinion) is false.
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drragostea,

It's all a matter of how you look at it. As real time active prevention Teatimer has to keep up with the ever increasing number of problems created by the miserable lowlife that produce malware. It has to keep doing more and more, and no matter how smart the coding, sooner or later that will mean using more resources, and/or taking more time. There will be complaints if the software doesn't keep doing more, there will be complaints if it does but uses more resources, and there will be complaints if it does but is slower.

I don't know whether you took part in the beta test of the new version of Teatimer or not, but if you did, you will know that the "conserve memory" mode (which is the default in the new release) was in the area of 40Mb, and that this was and is greatly reduced from the "higher speed at the expense of more memory" which comes in at about 173MB on the three XP machines I have.

The developers of Spybot have a difficult task trying to please users with very different criteria. At one end of the spectrum there are those who for what ever reason have remained with old operating systems with very little memory, and at the other end those who have modern fast platforms with heaps of memory. To be brutally frank, over time the first catagory is gradually dying by attrition, and the latter is moving back to take their place as technology continues to go forward - thats life.

Those with modern equipment rightfully expect performance, and 173MB is really not an issue for them. For those in the middle, with lower but still reasonable amounts of memory, 40MB is also not an issue. I personally think this new version of Teatimer with its ability to be configured in the two different modes, and also with its "caching" of scan results is a real step forward in trying to meet the needs of the widest possible user group.

At the lower end of the equipment range at some stage users have to make a decision - when their equipment is no longer adequate to support the type of software that is needed in todays world, then they either have to replace it, upgrade it, or accept the fact that they can't have all the benefits and features. In this case that may be to use Spybot without Teatimer. It is worth remembering that some other software hasn't bothered to support their end of the spectrum at all.

I fully expect that many will take issue with this post - so be it.
 
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that is true greyfox,

that makes sense. I can see both sides there. Anyway's, anyone have any ideas about what i posted? Ha, I'm not trying to be a nuisance, but ya i am just wondering. :)

here and here

Thanks :)
 
129260,

It seems to me that those who were already using 1.6.0.30 did not get updated to 1.6.0.31 from the downloads - I don't know what the difference is between them. If settings were to show beta items during download Teatimer 1.6.1.22 was offered and installed.

So prior to the download I has 1.6.0.30 with Teatimer 1.6.1.21. Now I have still have 1.6.0.30 but with Teatimer 1.6.1.22.

Last night I downloaded the updates on two PC's for another user who was still using 1.5.0.20, but changed the settings (temporarily) to show betas. Those PC's are both now 1.6.0.31 and 1.6.1.22.

If you change your setting to show beta downloads you should be able to get the latest Teatimer issue - I have no idea how to force an update from 1.6.0.30 to 1.6.0.31

On your balloon problem. The taskbar Teatimer right click menu item to show (or not show) balloons only applies to the "scanning notification balloons". The other info balloons still appear. The way I use to test this quickly on XP is to go to Control panel/Display/ScreenSaver Tab. Change the Screen saver from None to Windows XP (and vice versa). This will cause the Allow Change/Deny change dialoge to come up and when Allow is clicked a ballon will come up confirming the change made as a user decision. This will occur regardless of the setting of the show info balloons.

Hope this helps
 
thanks!

Greyfox said:
129260,

It seems to me that those who were already using 1.6.0.30 did not get updated to 1.6.0.31 from the downloads - I don't know what the difference is between them. If settings were to show beta items during download Teatimer 1.6.1.22 was offered and installed.

So prior to the download I has 1.6.0.30 with Teatimer 1.6.1.21. Now I have still have 1.6.0.30 but with Teatimer 1.6.1.22.

Last night I downloaded the updates on two PC's for another user who was still using 1.5.0.20, but changed the settings (temporarily) to show betas. Those PC's are both now 1.6.0.31 and 1.6.1.22.

If you change your setting to show beta downloads you should be able to get the latest Teatimer issue - I have no idea how to force an update from 1.6.0.30 to 1.6.0.31

On your balloon problem. The taskbar Teatimer right click menu item to show (or not show) balloons only applies to the "scanning notification balloons". The other info balloons still appear. The way I use to test this quickly on XP is to go to Control panel/Display/ScreenSaver Tab. Change the Screen saver from None to Windows XP (and vice versa). This will cause the Allow Change/Deny change dialoge to come up and when Allow is clicked a ballon will come up confirming the change made as a user decision. This will occur regardless of the setting of the show info balloons.

Hope this helps
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For the help. I will try the updater on Wednesday to get the latest beta of teatimer. Maybe that will solve the second issue: But unfortunately, even with your test, (a good way to have teatimer ask a question, thanks.) I again see no indication at all that my change was accepted. This happens on 2 machines. I only see the allow/deny box. There is no hint anything is accepted or denied, i just know what is done because of what i clicked. I get no box, no balloon, nothing. Nothing indicating user decision at all. I don't even get the scanning notification balloons. Nothing. So ya, weird!! :scratch: I did install the beta teatimer per your directions by the way, maybe updating using the updater on beta mode will solve my teatimer weirdness.
 
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129260,

A question - On the PC that doesn't show information balloons, do you have more than one user account, and if so, is there any difference in the balloon situation when running from each user account, and which account were you logged in on when you installed Spybot.?
 
you mean the both pc's? haha

Greyfox said:
129260,

A question - On the PC that doesn't show information balloons, do you have more than one user account, and if so, is there any difference in the balloon situation when running from each user account, and which account were you logged in on when you installed Spybot.?
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Um, the desktop yes. 3 accounts. 2 limited 1 admin. Laptop only has 1 admin account. I was on the admin account when installing new teatimer on both pc's. And no, there is no difference on other accounts, because teatimer is not set to run on the limited accounts. :) Thanks for the help, i think if i use the updater on beta updates i can download the newest beta teatimer and then hopefully that will fix the issues. :)
 
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