The four columns of security for a safe online experience

Anti-Malware

Obviously, you'll find us positive about our own software for this purpose, Spybot - Search & Destroy, which should protected you well.
A very important advice when downloading any anti-malware application is to check the source of the file and the validity of the application twice. Do not use sponsored links on search engines for example - cheaters often try to sell inferior software "trials" labeled with the name of well known other products. Others are rogues that have only superficial functionality and might even install malware themselves to show they would detect something others are missing. A list of known fake or rogue applications can be found at Spyware Warrior.
Also, make sure the manufacturer of the solution you intend to install is a member of the ASC and does adhere to its standard (not all do, see below).

Anti-Virus

The classical area of protection that anyone knows about, initially centered on detecting files only, so we would still not recommend on depending on the malware protection from your AV (nor from that of your anti-malware - you'll need both).

Standard precautions to avoid the classical viruses haven't changed in a long time: do not open files you receive on disk or by email unless you scanned them with your antivirus application first. Do not open files a stranger sent you at all, nor files that seem to be coming from known persons, but are not accompanied with a personal letter (your friends machine might be infected and sending them out automatically). Verifying downloads by comparing their hash to one displayed on the website of the manufacturer is highly recommended (you can for example use our FileAlyzer for that purpose).

Our recommendation in this area would be Avira Anti-Vir.

Products we cannot recommend are:
  • Kaspersky Internet Security 2008 & 2009
  • McAfee InternetSecurity 2008 & 2009
  • Trendmicro Internet Security 2008 & 2009
Industry standards define software that impairs user control over material changes that affect their system security as potentially unwanted technologies, and these products force you to uninstall unconflicting competing software, thus lowering your computers level of security compared to other software. And should you really trust a company that's putting marketing way over your security?

A special bad place is earned by Symantec for their CEOs opinion about how much your privacy really should be worth.

Firewall

At the moment, we cannot really recommend any firewall product. On the one hand, we've (at some point over a long time, not continuously) experienced problems with all of them we tested and would not feel comfortable e.g. recommending a firewall that kills the system. On the other hand, we do not really believe in those one-thing-for-all solutions, where firewalls include anti-virus and anti-spyware applications that are often not as well maintained as dedicated solutions and may conflict with other installed security software.

After much thought, we've decided that we simply could not find any third party software firewall we can currently recommend with a safe conscience. The Windows Firewall could be regarded as sufficient for sensible Internet users; here's a pictured walkthrough by Microsoft. We'll update this part with better information when we come across it.

Spam Filters

If you've got an up to date version of your email application installed, it'll already come with a sufficient spam filter. If you enable it and it doesn't lead to good results immediately, you might have to "train" it for a few weeks by manually flagging spam emails. And the best protection against spam still is to deal sensitive with your personal data. Check twice or thrice where you leave your email address.
 
I have been using Comodo Firewall Pro for the last year without any obvious problems.

Comodo has always performed well in the matousec firewall challenge and what's more it's free!

I have used it along with spybot, avast, AVG and siteadvisor with no problems.

My only reservation is that it can throw up a lot of alerts which could be quite baffling to the inexperienced. This is mostly due to it really being two products - a firewall and a HIPS (Host-based intrusion protection system). It's the later that generates most of the alerts but this can be turned off during installation or through the settings. There are also settings to reduce the number of alerts. In fact there are settings for nearly everthing!

I have used it with peer to peer downloads and a friend has played several internet games without any problems.

Comodo have just started pushing their antivirus with the firewall but from what I've read the firewall can still be installed independently.

I certainly wouldn't recommend the firewall that comes with XP. As far as I am aware it doesn't monitor or block any outbound traffic.

So what about giving Comodo a try?
 
I've been using Comodo myself for some time ;) It was even mentioned in my first and third draft. That it didnt make it has basically three reasons:
  • The toolbar in the installer. Checked by default. I don't really like to recommend software with drive-by installations. In fact, I usually don't even install software that offers drive-by installations even if they are disabled by default, which they are not here. And recommding something I would not really want to use myself would not be honest.
  • Trouble with Microsofts signtool.exe I had for a while. Comodo just didn't remember it if I told it to handle this as a trusted application, which lead to dozens of non-timestamped files. And having to switch the firewall mode constantly wasn't really comfortable.
  • Defense+ probably needs even more thinking than TeaTimer :D Being constantly asked if application X may load library Y is something even more difficult to decide for the standard user, since it does not only happen during installations, but can happen any time (DLLs are sometimes dynamically loaded only when they're needed). Not a bad concept, but nothing I would recommend to some of my friends who "just want it to work", and to those technically interested only if I had a lot of time over the next to answer their phone calls ;)
It's certainly good though - for the ambitioned user who does not need our recommendation anyway, and who knows to recognize drive-by installations ;)
 
what about avast and zonealarm? I have installed them on computer novice's machines, and they work just fine for them. I have never had any problems besides the one time that a Microsoft security update caused zonealarm to block the Internet, but that was fixed easily.
 
Well. I think comodo is worthless. I want to explain why. The reason why I don't like is not about it's hips feature, it's bugs etc. Why I don't like is that this firewall's CEO is Turkish also the person who wrote the firewall's core is Turkish. But these guys even doesn't have a Turkish localization. Even though lots of people were volunteer to translate it to Turkish including me. Btw I have also translated spybot =)) Well whatever I really think it is too annoying. You guys have a German support forum also. I really appreciate it.

I know that it is not probably the place to write these. But I am very mad and couldn't avoid writing. Sorry...

Btw I use pc tools fw and It is good I think. Can't you recommend it also?
 
"Products we cannot recommend are:
Kaspersky Internet Security 2008 & 2009
McAfee InternetSecurity 2008 & 2009
Trendmicro Internet Security 2008 & 2009 "

OK, I know Kasper is bad mouthing Spy Bot but, do the two actually conflict with each other? I have both S&B and KIS 2007 and they have been getting along fine unless Kasper is the culprit preventing me from being able to update SB signatures. BTW, I do not have Tea Timer enabled because of redundancy and it does conflict. I really like my Kasper too and would find it hard to have to give up either of the two. Kasper has the highest ratings as far as effectiveness last I read. Very confused here now. If there are problems could someone explain them to me please?
 
Kaspersky indeed says that TeaTimer would be conflicting. Which might validate to force the user to not use TeaTimer, but not uninstalling the whole application.

The last time I met someone from Kaspersky in real life (both Kaspersky and Spybot received a first prize), he didn't return the greeting but turned around and walked away. Either stupid arrogancy or a rest of decorum and shame for violating laws of proper competition, I can't say.
 
PepiMK wrote:
"Either stupid arrogancy or a rest of decorum and shame for violating laws of proper competition, I can't say."
Now that you mention it, I have been reading on their board for over a year now how many board members have been noticing the same "arrogant" attitude. I discounted it all of this time but after crossing between here and there, I'm having second thoughts. I first started with KIS 2006, which was excellent, and am on 2007 now, uses more resources, and due to renew to the present 2009, hmmmmmm, I don't know now??? Maybe I should just hang on to 07 for as long as possible and leave the "application updates" disabled.
 
I have Avast! Free installed in my PC. I think its the best Freeware program because its freeware provides many facilities than other freeware Anti Viruses. Its premium only provides Firewall and Anti Spyware added to Avast!. I think its worth it.
 
Tried to contact you via PM, your message box is full so I have posted it here, for your attention. Thanks.

Hello,

After reading your blog entry I thought I would attempt to contact you and discuss some of the comments mentioned there. My message to you is not to vent but to try and get some constructive dialog between Spybot and Kaspersky.

Firstly, just to make clear I am not a Kaspersky employee, I am a volunteer moderator of their forum so these comments are mine and are not official line of Kaspersky Lab or any KL employee.

I understand you feel that Kaspersky is not a product you can recommend because you feel it forces people to uninstall unconflicting software.

This is a fine point to make but I think this is slightly inaccurate, and some of my reasons for that judgement are below:

1) Incompatible program signatures built into the Kaspersky installer are made based on a number of factors, including previous reports of incompatibility or unwanted interaction between two softwares, which may be the reason spybot is on that list of software to check for when installing Kaspersky.

This does not mean that Kaspersky is trying to force you to uninstall a "competing" product or such, because spybot is free and not in direct competition with Kaspersky Lab (so nothing is gained from asking to uninstall it). Some "Competing" software is asked to be uninstalled because of known conflicts, for example with Kaspersky and Zonealarm (with ZoneAlarm stopping Kaspersky updating or installing properly), or Kaspersky and another antivirus software (which some people will not remember or know to uninstall unless given a prompt), which is a bad combination which usually leads to BSOD and system instability because of the presence of two or more deep hooking applications.

2) Kaspersky offers a documented method on bypassing the incompatible software check, as shown on the technical support site

Here: http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208279779

and here:

http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208279498

As a small suggestion, please make any of your forum staff aware of those two articles in case any user of spybot asks about installing Kaspersky and spybot together for the time being. This will allow them to keep spybot and install Kaspersky without getting the warning.

3) Kaspersky are responsive to communications from other companies, and I would be glad to pass on a contact name and email address of someone at KL who may be able to discuss with you the inclusion of Spybot on the incompatible product check, where you can state your reasons why it should not be listed and perhaps come to an agreement to get it removed.

What do you say? :)

Regards,

B (please send me a PM if you would like to discuss further)
 
I think you don't understand the difference between free as in free speech and free as in free beer. The damage the four blocking companies (including Kaspersky) did and most still do to us can be expressed in clear Euros and as such in number of jobs.

But even if you want to argument with just commercial software. keep in mind that we have a corporate edition and damage is done to paying customers as well.

Finally, it's not a thing that I do not feel that I could not recommend it. That software that reduces the security level of customers like done here can be regarded as malware is an official standpoint of the Anti-Spyware Coalition, even though those violating members who are in the ASC would never admit that of course.

And to every person who honors a users control over his computer, anything that forces him not just to reduce his security level, this should be absolutely intolerable.

As for the incompatibility, everywhere on the Kaspersky forum I just read TeaTimer. Well, telling the user to disable TeaTimer, even making that a default, would have been fine. But not this.

Will send PM after cleaning my PM in/outbox a bit ;)
 
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